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Old 02-04-09, 03:59 PM   #26
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Seems like the frame and maybe wheels are not legal for the UCI hour record and the whole setup is not aero enough for the "best hour performance" record....?
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Old 02-04-09, 04:09 PM   #27
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yeah i agree. for best performance hed have full carbon wheels, hubs, and aero bars for a start.

im pretty sure those wheels wouldnt be legal, as theyre clearly a massive modern improvment on the merkx bike.
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Old 02-04-09, 04:23 PM   #28
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fail thread.
Your attempts to fail this thread failed. Sorry that Lance actually uses a track bike for track stuff
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train on a heavy bike + compete on a light bike= win
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Old 02-04-09, 05:23 PM   #30
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Everyone has watched this by now but I think it is worth posting in this thread.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=aNCPEzdZs5s
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Old 02-04-09, 05:23 PM   #31
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i reckon its a 52 -14/15. weird that he doesnt tape his bars, even if you wear gloves you dont have anywhere as near as much grip, especially in the rain. saying that, those bars could be the carbon with a rough texture to the surface.

im actually quite supprised, i thought the use of fixed gear training was long dead in the world of international pro racing.
um....the part about cadence...and spinning the cranks CONSTANTLY should* appeal to riders....
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Old 02-04-09, 07:58 PM   #32
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Everyone has watched this by now but I think it is worth posting in this thread.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=aNCPEzdZs5s
lol omg ssfg loves mash cuz we love fixed gear
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Old 02-04-09, 08:02 PM   #33
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Seems like the frame and maybe wheels are not legal for the UCI hour record and the whole setup is not aero enough for the "best hour performance" record....?
i didn't mean that exact setup...i think those are just dura ace road cranks. but i heard* (dunno if it's true) that a madone track frame was built SO that he could attempt the record....
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Notice the fact that he's running a road length crank. That will allow him to actually torque down more. Us street kiddies with 165 cranks and being taller than 5'9" are dumb.

52-15 or 52-14 isn't really that big of a gear for someone who's TdF category, especially since he's not looking to spin upwards of 150+ rpm on that bike. I'm going to guess he keeps about a 100-110 rpm cadence going for hours at a time.
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well they DO* make 170mm+ dura ace track cranks. but like the trek t1, i'm sure he just takes parts off other bikes and seys "oh well" lol...

LA was known for spinning a "not so big gear" compared to jan and others, but his cadences was always one of the highest in the peloton.
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I don't know why he doesn't run hood if this is a road trainer. Hoods elongate the effective reach of the bike versus using the tops. Most road riding happens on the hoods. With the unwrapped bars, it seems to me that this bike is incomplete. I refuse to believe that he would use that cheap Bontrager saddle when he has been using the Concor for his entire career.
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well they DO* make 170mm+ dura ace track cranks. but like the trek t1, i'm sure he just takes parts off other bikes and seys "oh well" lol...
That dude has a personal bike mechanic. I wouldn't be surprised if he hadn't touched a wrench in years.


And yeah, I had 172.5mm DA 7710 track cranks on one of my bikes a few years back. Loved 'em. A lot. They are my favorite track cranks of all time.
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Old 02-04-09, 08:29 PM   #38
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Everyone has watched this by now but I think it is worth posting in this thread.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=aNCPEzdZs5s
that's probably the best mash video i've seen because it's them actually riding.
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Old 02-04-09, 08:50 PM   #39
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there's no way he trains on a mushy bargain bin bontrager saddle
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Old 02-04-09, 09:02 PM   #40
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that's probably the best mash video i've seen because it's them actually riding.
Possibly because Lance's presence forces out the rider from even the tarckest of folks. While leg-over-bar skids are cool among fellow tarckers, put Lance in the equation and suddenly everyone's like OH %$#@! GOTTA RIDE HARD.
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Those guys are gonna talk about that ride the rest of their lives. I'd be terrified to ride with Lance on the street. I'd be my luck that I take him out and I'd be all on the news. I'd probably ride on the other side of the street to be safe.

I had a similar experience in college at Alabama when I played a pickup basketball game with the QB (still active at the time) that had just won the National Championship the year before. Was scared to get close to the dude.
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Everyone has watched this by now but I think it is worth posting in this thread.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=aNCPEzdZs5s
That song is by Leo Kottke.
Perhaps the best american acoustic guitarist of his time.
Check him out.

I like the vid.
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Old 02-04-09, 11:23 PM   #43
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haha lance is a hipster.

btw, what are the bars at the end credits? kinda like a reversed bullhorn? at 4:05, i could be seeing things.

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Old 02-04-09, 11:46 PM   #44
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^ moustache bars.
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Notice the fact that he's running a road length crank. That will allow him to actually torque down more. Us street kiddies with 165 cranks and being taller than 5'9" are dumb.
Not really. Shorter cranks make a lot more sense for fixed gears and there's a reason track racers ride a little shorter cranks than road riders besides wall clearance. Smaller cranks are easier to spin at high RPMs and when only have one gear to work with, that makes a bit more sense.

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52-15 or 52-14 isn't really that big of a gear for someone who's TdF category, especially since he's not looking to spin upwards of 150+ rpm on that bike. I'm going to guess he keeps about a 100-110 rpm cadence going for hours at a time.
52/14 @ 100rpm is 29mph.
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omg. tarckatino droppin teh tarcky knowledge
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Yo I always drop knowledge haha...

Octopus Magic, you do have one point in the larger crank arm thing though. Some match sprinters have found using a slightly longer crank helps torque the bigger gears down in a sprint but it's important to also realize they have less than 1000m to get up to full speed so that's a situation where it could be a big advantage to have a little longer crank and a little bigger gear on the track bike... you don't have to hold your high RPM for long in that situation. For any mass start event, or riding on the street for that matter... I still say 165-170 is the way to go and make far more sense!
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Those guys are gonna talk about that ride the rest of their lives...
Not just the ride, They got to hang at Lance's House! Alot of peeps miss the end of that Vid!

Ye Moustache bars with a reverse lever.
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Not really. Shorter cranks make a lot more sense for fixed gears and there's a reason track racers ride a little shorter cranks than road riders besides wall clearance. Smaller cranks are easier to spin at high RPMs and when only have one gear to work with, that makes a bit more sense.

52/14 @ 100rpm is 29mph.
Except for the fact that, hey he's riding a fixed gear bike to train for ROAD RIDING, not track riding, nor for commuting purposes. I'm pretty sure if Lance was training for track, he wouldn't be on the road, and be booking time at the LA Velodrome. This is why he's more than likely riding similar if not the same crank length he does on his road bikes. For you and me, 165's and 170's are a lot better.

I don't see how the miles per hour matters when I'm just talking about his usual cadence? There's a considerable difference between the spin of a track racer, and a grand tour rider in riding styles. Lance has never been a sprinter. You're not always full out race pace on training rides either, so are you saying he's slow? I'm just guessing on the gearing, but if he's keeping an average speed for an hour at 29+ mph, that's pretty quick.

If you know anything about racing bicycles, the vast majority of time trial bike cranks are longer than normal road bikes, in order to churn those giant (53-55 tooth+) chain rings. 180mm cranks are not unheard of.
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If you know anything about racing bicycles, the vast majority of time trial bike cranks are longer than normal road bikes, in order to churn those giant (53-55 tooth+) chain rings. 180mm cranks are not unheard of.
side note, but i think rasmuseen used 185/190mm crankarms lol, he IS a mountain goat.
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