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Old 02-03-09, 01:58 PM
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Ideas on Retro Design Kilo OS

I am working on a very old school type track bike as a new model and I would love to hear any ideas.

I am looking for parts that would fit with the concept and I already have drawn DBL TT frame with sample of that on the way.

Any input would surely be appreciated {this project is for fun; not for highest performance}

Bike I was looking at for inspriation:




Frame Design I havce done with sample of frame on the way:

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looks cool, I wouldn't get it because I'm still waiting on your Motobecane Pro Track though.
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I think a curved top tube might be more interesting than a double top tube. My problem with the double top tube is that it'd be added weight for no real reason. The Masi Soulville has an interesting curved top tube:



However, the curve might be what causes the rear wheel to be pushed back so far, which seems to increase the wheelbase a little too much.
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Sign me up for one.

Would love a modern frame, girder or springer, big Cokers.

https://store.coker.com/b.f.goodrich-bicycle-red.html

Sprung brooks or old moto saddle...
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Originally Posted by j3ffr3y
looks cool, I wouldn't get it because I'm still waiting on your Motobecane Pro Track though.
+1... any news on that one? I want to see some pics!
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What you have there is the Massey Boardtracker bike built by one of my forum members (oldy57) in our 2nd annual Rat Rod Bikes Build Off.

He did a magnificent job in putting this bike together.

You can see more photos of this bike here:

https://www.ratrodbikes.com/forum/vie...hp?f=17&t=4198

You can see the full build diary here:

https://www.ratrodbikes.com/forum/vie...hp?f=15&t=3459

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Originally Posted by ratrodbikes
What you have there is the Massey Boardtracker bike built by one of my forum members (oldy57) in our 2nd annual Rat Rod Bikes Build Off.

He did a magnificent job in putting this bike together.

You can see more photos of this bike here:

https://www.ratrodbikes.com/forum/vie...hp?f=17&t=4198

You can see the full build diary here:

https://www.ratrodbikes.com/forum/vie...hp?f=15&t=3459
HEY THANKS
I was wondering where that came from
I saw picture posted in a forum

very cool looking bike
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so then you're looking to make more of a cruiser then a track then right?
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so then you're looking to make more of a cruiser then a track then right?

Not exactly

more like a old time track or even grass racer

we do lots of cruisers under the Mango name - but we mainly sell those in our shops
this bike will be very different than a crusier


here is ONE LOVE we do for fun in the beach shops
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I'd prefer to see and Iver Johnson-style bent tube underneath the top tube:



It would be awesome if you released it as a SS with drum brakes front and back--that board-track racer inspired bike pictured previously has a rear drum--but if it needs to have flip flop hub in back to sell, at least include a front drum-brake hub.

Mmm. Retro. Drum brakes...

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I think it would do you well to follow the styling of that Pashley.
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That CCM is one of my all time favorites over at Ratrodbikes. Here are a couple of my builds. The first is a Schwinn road bike from the early 80s. I added a arched tube and removed all of the braze-ons. The fork is from a pre WWII Hawthorne with 28" wheels. The second bike is a 1920s(?) Excelsior made by Schwinn. The bike has 28" wheels from a Raleigh, Soma bars, and a Velo orange seat. I'm still working on the Excelsior. It needs a re-paint, a chain and some other minor fixes.


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check out a real retro track bike,

Yes, there is massive saddle to bar drop, but also a huge wheelbase. And wood rims, please bring those back.
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Curved seat tubes are where its at.
Make this happen.
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+1 on the arched secondary top tube. I wouldn't be interested in a frame with two straight top tubes, but I would definitely be interested in the arched tube design.
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I agree. ached secondary top tube FTW.
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From this thread: https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vintage/507349-collection.html





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Again, arched truss undertube is the way to go.

Why?

Because I can get a straight bar undertube bike from Worksman.

Blah, blah, tubing, blah, blah, geometry, blah, blah, weight--who cares, the style has already been done!

I mean seriously, don't you want something unique on the market? Not just a warmed over Worksman?

The worksman is cool and all, you can order it up in a wide variety of paints, a cruved top tube, even chromed, and I'd go with the drum brakes front and rear laced to aluminum rims. End up with something to give even that Pashley a run for the money style wise and for a shipload less money. $572 for my chrome throwback SS w/ drums...

Is that what you want to compete with?!?

Arched truss tube, my friend.

I'll be close to first in line for one...
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Although, to really get the most out of it, you might have to elongate the wheel base. In which case, it might not be what you're after.

If you modeled it after this:
Originally Posted by mconlonx
I'd be lining up for it as well.

Although, to really get the most out of it, you might have to elongate the wheel base. In which case, it might not be what you're after.

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Can someone explain why the wheelbase would need to be elongated? Isn't the rear triangle independent from the front (except for shared seat tube)?
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I think just for looks if they wanted it to look like a real antique bike
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I like the frame you have designed!!! be sure to post pics of sample frame.

keep it simple, cream colored or burgundy or navy blue frame, silver components, brown seat/bartape. drillings for fenders/racks/brakes.
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