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What's the big deal with lugged forks?

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Old 02-24-09, 10:15 PM
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What's the big deal with lugged forks?

Everyone seems to go ape**** over them, but I think they're ugly as hell. Are they stronger than unicrown? Last longer? More/less flexy?

Just curious.

For that matter, are lugged frames stronger, or different somehow?
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Originally Posted by cyrano138
Everyone seems to go ape**** over them, but I think they're ugly as hell. Are they stronger than unicrown? Last longer? More/less flexy?

Just curious.

For that matter, are lugged frames stronger, or different somehow?
Lugged frames can be repaired. Break a tube in half? No problem, just replace it. Assuming steel of course.
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I see. Thanks for the info. Is that why people like the forks, too, or is it just aesthetics?
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Originally Posted by cyrano138
I see. Thanks for the info. Is that why people like the forks, too, or is it just aesthetics?
99% of the reason why people want lugged frames in this forum is not because of my aformentioned reason.
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people think they are pretty
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^Sure are. Welding can look pretty bad imo.
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Because lugged is vintage yo
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Fair enough. I wouldn't be foolish enough to debate aesthetics. It just seemed like lugged forks are seen as an upgrade from a unicrown almost universally and I wondered if I was missing something. For me, the unicrown just goes with the whole sleek, stripped down, fixed gear motif.
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Unicrown looks nasty IMO. The only thing lugged on my bike is the fork and I think it looks pretty sharp
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people think they are pretty
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The number of lugged bikes that have ever had a tube replaced instead of the whole frame over the history of cycling is a probably a shockingly small number, probably equal to the number of nice road frames that have been "drewed".
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It really is mainly looks. I have seen decent unicrowns (IRO?) to downright gross (Pista).
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I never applied the thought that a tube could be replaced. I have access to a pile of frames that are about to get a second look.

I always considered aesthetics. I like the way they look over unicrown. I would ride unicrown if I had one that I didn't think was ugly.
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nice lugs hide bad welds.
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Originally Posted by norskagent
nice lugs hide bad welds.
incorrect
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I've also seen some nice unicrown forks, like the pantographed chrome forks on my '84 Ciocc. But when I save up enough to buy a new steel-framed bike, it's going to have lugs, including a lugged fork. If I'm lucky, it will be a Waterford!
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Originally Posted by norskagent
nice lugs hide bad welds.
Lugged frames aren't welded, thats what the lugs are for.

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I've also seen some nice unicrown forks, like the pantographed chrome forks on my '84 Ciocc. But when I save up enough to buy a new steel-framed bike, it's going to have lugs, including a lugged fork. If I'm lucky, it will be a Waterford!
Sloping crown forks are closer to lugged in design and execution than they are to unicrown.
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Originally Posted by rotharpunc
Lugged frames aren't welded, thats what the lugs are for.
not welded per se, I was just posting a nice compact soundbite response. Lugs do hide solder qualities and type, but nice ones look better than exposed aluminum welds imo.
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Originally Posted by rotharpunc

Sloping crown forks are closer to lugged in design and execution than they are to unicrown.
Ah, ok. I didn't know the difference. I sort of suspected there was a different term. Thanks!
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Originally Posted by norskagent
nice lugs hide bad welds.
Soldered, like copper water pipes, not welded, like aluminum (and some steel) frames.
Its the look of years gone by, the look of elegance.
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street cred.

big vegan you have no idea what you are talking about.
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Heres something for you guys to look at and appreciate

https://www.bikelugs.com/gallery/

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https://www.bikelugs.com/gallery/inde...ntGalleryID=66
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Craftmanship is key.
Only complete fork failure I've had was a lugged fork. Double fork tube failure below the crown. Benotto.
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big vegan you have no idea what you are talking about.
How so?

How many bike owners really take the time tohave a tube replaced and the bike repainted when they can, in many cases, replace the frame for about the same price?

Sure, there are people who do it, but it's a pretty small number.
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Originally Posted by Metzinger
Craftmanship is key.
Only complete fork failure I've had was a lugged fork. Double fork tube failure below the crown. Benotto.
In a situation like that, I'd wonder more about previous abuse than brand name.
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I'm having the downtube on my '87 Fuso replaced.

Bilenky Cycle Works is doing it for me. They have this bike on their front page:


Looks built to carry a keg of beer.


It's not worth it to replace a tube on a cheap bike but I could meet several riders on a Saturday ride that have repaired steel bikes. I was surprised but it makes sense for a nice frame.
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