Cycling and bicycle discussion forums. 
   Click here to join our community Log in to access your Control Panel  


Go Back   > >

Singlespeed & Fixed Gear "I still feel that variable gears are only for people over forty-five. Isn't it better to triumph by the strength of your muscles than by the artifice of a derailer? We are getting soft...As for me, give me a fixed gear!"-- Henri Desgrange (31 January 1865 - 16 August 1940)

User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 03-16-09, 06:02 PM   #1
Dustintendo
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Rochester, NY
Bikes:
Posts: 302
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
worried about damaging my knees

i started riding fixed about a wek ago and love it, so i took the rear brake off of my bike. m i risking damaging my knees from resisting the pedals to slow down? now and again while resisting the pedals i feel a click in my right knee but it doesnt hurt really. i dont really have any interest in skidding because tires are expensive and im a student, but i know that will hurt your knees after a while.
i do most of my braking with my front brake, and supplement it by resisting, and i also resist at lower speeds usually without the brake.

anyone here who has been riding fixed for a long time care to chime in? im running about 73 gear inches btw.
Dustintendo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-16-09, 06:09 PM   #2
operator
cab horn
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Toronto
Bikes: 1987 Bianchi Campione
Posts: 28,306
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
If you're not comfortable doing it, either switch to a lower gear or don't do it. If I was riding 73 gear inches, i'd probably be fine resisting some of the time. Low cadence, high torque resisting is as good as mashing up a hill at 5rpm.
operator is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-16-09, 06:51 PM   #3
trons
yo yo yo yo yo
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: delaware
Bikes:
Posts: 2,518
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
what's the point of only taking off the rear brake in the first place?
trons is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-16-09, 06:59 PM   #4
Dustintendo
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Rochester, NY
Bikes:
Posts: 302
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
so that i still have the front brake.
Dustintendo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-16-09, 07:00 PM   #5
Yaktizzle417
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Bikes: 2001 Bianchi Eros, 1976 Orbea conversion
Posts: 159
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I run a 71.1 gear inch setup and horrible knees run in my family. Never any pain or weird feelings. But I'm also only 17 and have been riding as long as I can remember.
Yaktizzle417 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-16-09, 07:10 PM   #6
old scratch
Banned.
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Astoria NY
Bikes: fixed iro jamie roy
Posts: 184
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
i have had acl reconstruction, and for fun spin my wheels backwards when i am stopping, pushing with everything i have, and my knees still feel great.

/end relatively meaningless personal anecdote
old scratch is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-16-09, 08:03 PM   #7
skeletor3000
Senior Member
 
skeletor3000's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Portland, OR
Bikes: Cannondale R600 CAAD5, 1973 Takara, 2009 Mercier Kilo TT
Posts: 179
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
If your knees start hurting, stop doing it.

I've had a lot of knee problems for my age (only 24 and had some serious problems from running hurdles in high school) and if anything, I feel like the bike has helped.
skeletor3000 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-16-09, 08:06 PM   #8
cyclefreaksix
Senior Member
 
cyclefreaksix's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Plano Texas
Bikes:
Posts: 1,311
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I'm with skeletor, if'n it hurts don't do it. Ya know, you can still resist pedal movement to slow down AND run a back brake. Unless, of course, yer afraid of the other kids pokin' fun at you.
cyclefreaksix is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-16-09, 08:24 PM   #9
lukewall
Senior Member
 
lukewall's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: NYC
Bikes: 2000 Raleigh M50. 2006 Raleigh Rush Hour. 2008 Cannondale Synapse 6.
Posts: 448
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Get a proper fitting. +-10mm in saddle height and fore/aft can be the difference between knee/IT band/hamstring pain and a comfortable ride.

And if 73 gear inches feels too tall, don't be afraid to run a smaller gear. I run 66 gear inches and like that it's low enough to let my knees warm up in the cold and make quick accelerations in traffic.
lukewall is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-16-09, 10:08 PM   #10
ManlyDude69
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Bikes:
Posts: 91
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I work on my bike and after a year or so I though the track bike was killing my knees... I had a lot of knee pain that was becoming worse and worse... what was actually happening was that I was not taking proper care of my bicycle... I wasn't changing bearings... I wasn't keeping the tires inflated to proper capacity... I wasn't changing my bottom bracket enough... I wasn't keeping my chain nice and oiled... so fixed wasn't the problem...
ManlyDude69 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-16-09, 11:24 PM   #11
Dustintendo
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Rochester, NY
Bikes:
Posts: 302
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
lol im not worried about being made fun of, a quick stfu would take care of that. and 73 gear inches feels great actually
Dustintendo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-17-09, 12:28 AM   #12
calf man
Senior Member
 
calf man's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Atascadero, CA
Bikes:
Posts: 169
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Don't worry about your knees.
calf man is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-17-09, 01:32 AM   #13
Saberhead
Bikes hella booty!
 
Saberhead's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Seattle
Bikes: 725TR Leader
Posts: 386
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I would say perhaps the fit is probablly what it is? Im a week into fixed gear riding too and run a 71 inch setup and had bad pain in the back of my knees the first day or two, but feels a bit better now. Im using a front brake and try and just use my legs but the soreness is going away. Maybe your seat/handlebar height isnt right for you?
Saberhead is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-17-09, 01:47 AM   #14
nerdbot5000
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Bikes:
Posts: 62
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I have terrible knees that pop with every step I take, and when I was into tennis, they would hurt every single day the first month of the season. So far, I've had no problems riding a brakeless fixed gear. I do feel some tension in my knees when backpedaling very hard (this actually feels harder on my knees than skidding), and on a few days my knees might become a little sore, but I've had nothing to whine or worry about. Make sure you are properly fit on your bike, and I think you'll be ok.
nerdbot5000 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-17-09, 02:07 AM   #15
c0urt
moving target
 
c0urt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: birmingham, al
Bikes: a masi speciale, and a kuota k-factor.
Posts: 2,828
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 16 Post(s)
seat height is really really important.

my knees are fine, and i run between 71-73 gear inches, between several bikes.
it made my shins worse than they were, I have 23 micro fractures in my left leg between years of soccer, karate, and cycling.

they were screwed up anyway, but riding brakeless for a year didn't help.
c0urt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-17-09, 09:05 AM   #16
lukewall
Senior Member
 
lukewall's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: NYC
Bikes: 2000 Raleigh M50. 2006 Raleigh Rush Hour. 2008 Cannondale Synapse 6.
Posts: 448
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Saberhead View Post
I would say perhaps the fit is probablly what it is? Im a week into fixed gear riding too and run a 71 inch setup and had bad pain in the back of my knees the first day or two, but feels a bit better now. Im using a front brake and try and just use my legs but the soreness is going away. Maybe your seat/handlebar height isnt right for you?
Sounds like your saddle might be a bit high and it's straining your hamstrings.
lukewall is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-17-09, 09:21 AM   #17
rduenas
Senior Member
 
rduenas's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: New York City
Bikes:
Posts: 718
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
If you've pretty much decided that it's pain due to fit, check this out:

http://www.sheldonbrown.com/pain.html
rduenas is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-17-09, 09:40 AM   #18
vegipowrd
Lifer
 
vegipowrd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: San Jose, CA
Bikes:
Posts: 250
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
It would also be a good idea to give your self a breather on a geared bike a few days each week. After a few months you won't need it, but it's a good idea at first. Remember that it's not the big muscles that you need to worry about, it's the small ones that keep your kneecap in place that get tired and angry! Keep those guys happy until they are built up.
vegipowrd is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-17-09, 11:09 PM   #19
Saberhead
Bikes hella booty!
 
Saberhead's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Seattle
Bikes: 725TR Leader
Posts: 386
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by lukewall View Post
Sounds like your saddle might be a bit high and it's straining your hamstrings.
I actually adjusted that this week and its a lot better. Im not as sore
Saberhead is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 07:50 AM.