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Singlespeed & Fixed Gear "I still feel that variable gears are only for people over forty-five. Isn't it better to triumph by the strength of your muscles than by the artifice of a derailer? We are getting soft...As for me, give me a fixed gear!"-- Henri Desgrange (31 January 1865 - 16 August 1940)

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Old 03-18-09, 08:50 AM   #1
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Singlespeed OK for weekend trips?

Thinking of building a bike. Wanna use the bike for a short commute to work (2km one way, flat) and for weekend trips around town. Only paved roads. I am thinking a singlespeed would be nice for the city, but is it gonna cut it for my weekend trips, too? I tend to go 30-50km on the weekend, up and downhill.
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Old 03-18-09, 09:10 AM   #2
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i did my first century in a single gear when my rear derailleur took a dump 5 miles in, that's when i realized i could do a ss/fg setup on my bike. i think it would probably suit your needs just fine.
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The hard thing will be doing this with one bike. I'd look at either a fairly low geared single speed or a flip flop hub with a weekday gear and a weekend gear. You won't be a speed demon this way, but I bet it will be a lot of fun.
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Yeah, maybe two bikes would be a nice idea. I have a Cannondale Bad Boy Disc with a bunch of gears, I was thinking of selling that to partially finance my new bike. Maybe it's better to keep that and build a single speed for city.
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There you go -- all you needed was a way to rationalize adding on instead of replacing.
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Hey,

I did approx 15 km X 2 in Tokyo. I wanted to go shoppe in Kawasaki across to the other side of Tamagawa. I did this in 46-17. You ought to know this trip includes only gradual hill-up and down. And, it is not really a trip per se. But it was kinda hard. ...

Why don't you use Surly's dual cog? I think it has 17-19 right? Drop down when you get tired.

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Yeah, I've gone that way, too. Did a trip from Tokyo to Yokohama, passed by Kawasaki. That was on my Cannondale Bad Boy though, so not a problem. That's a nice ride though to Kawasaki.
About the dual cog. I am not sure, will I need a shifter for that then? How's that work, just like any other bike with gears?
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I'd actually like to test ride one before buying a fixed gear bike. Problem is that here in Japan the shops don't really let you do that and even if they did, the bikes are so damn small here. I'll probably have to order everything from abroad. (Just like clothes, shoes and everything else, too)
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Oh no no.

You don't need any shifter. You just use 3/32 chain and tension the chain. Just read the link here.

http://www.surlybikes.com/new/dinlgecog_pop.html

I never tried it. I am still on 46-17. I now plan out my routes so I am close to coffee shop when I run out of gas.

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P.S. Tokyo-Yokohama? Oh I really need to do that. There is a frame I really need to see.
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I'd actually like to test ride one before buying a fixed gear bike. Problem is that here in Japan the shops don't really let you do that and even if they did, the bikes are so damn small here. I'll probably have to order everything from abroad. (Just like clothes, shoes and everything else, too)
Oh you are gonna have problem. I have never seen people using dingle cogs. I think most people in Tokyo go for singles because you need to have two chain rings. (refer to the Surly website)

I think you can find a dingle cog accumulating dust in Local store ... because no one buys it. I saw one collecting dust in P*o*ek in Ebisu few months back.

... I am a small guy. Thank you very much.

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I do a lot of long rides on my fg bikes and could easily put down 100 km a day on my Pug that is running 76 gear inches... my touring bikes run flip flop hubs that have gearings of 57/64 and 65/73 as they tend to get loaded with gear and having a lower gearing is preferable.

A 46/17 is 70 gear inches which is a nice all round gearing... being able to step down to a 19 would give you 64 gear inches which might be great should you find yourself bucking headwinds for extended periods of time.
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Sorry, no offense intended. Just saying it's hard for the average european male to find anything in Tokyo.
Do you live in Tokyo?
Where is that store in Ebisu? Is that the name of it?
I usually get stuff at w-base.
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I do a lot of long rides on my fg bikes and could easily put down 100 km a day on my Pug that is running 76 gear inches... my touring bikes run flip flop hubs that have gearings of 57/64 and 65/73 as they tend to get loaded with gear and having a lower gearing is preferable.

A 46/17 is 70 gear inches which is a nice all round gearing... being able to step down to a 19 would give you 64 gear inches which might be great should you find yourself bucking headwinds for extended periods of time.
Well, you might be able to pull out a 100km a day. I don't think I could do that with a bike with gears!
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A dingle cog can be used with a single chain ring and a single chain if the dropout allows for the required adjustment... the 4 step 17/21 dingle cog might be problematic for some road bikes but the 2 and 3 step versions should be okay.

They do recommend that you use a 9 speed chain.
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Well, you might be able to pull out a 100km a day. I don't think I could do that with a bike with gears!
I ride a lot and work as a messenger... 100 km isn't that far.

I do all my century rides (163 km) on a fixed gear too...it is not as hard to do as one would think.
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Sorry, no offense intended. Just saying it's hard for the average european male to find anything in Tokyo.
Do you live in Tokyo?
Where is that store in Ebisu? Is that the name of it?
I usually get stuff at w-base.
Protek (http://www.protech-kk.co.jp/home.html) has a store in Ebisu. It's sorta right on the Meiji Dori between Ebisu-station (JR) and Shibuya-station(JR). It's pretty nice. You might have to order the parts anyways though. Too exotic so inventory never get refilled by itself.

I should know more stores ... I am pretty new to fixed riding so I only know a handful. I will try out W-base. I have been avoiding Shibuya area too long. Last time I was there I slammed into an expensive car. Too many people too narrow streets. (Oh and I am not that good.)

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Oh wow. Sorry to hear that. Hopefully you didn't get into too much trouble.
I've been to protech. It's pretty close to Gaienmae. I didn't think it's that good. W-Base and Carnival are much much better.

I think Oosaka and Kyoto might have some nice stores.
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Not trying to persuade you either way, but 25-30Km on a fixed or SS is not that far. Longer trips are just about pacing yourself and allowing for time to take in the scenery. Last weekend I road about 20Km of cyclocross on my fixed that has a 53/17 gearing and a large majority of that was hill climbing. I was hella sore afterwards, but I was also proud of myself for pedaling every inch of that trip.
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... the bikes are so damn small here. I'll probably have to order everything from abroad. (Just like clothes, shoes, rubbers, and everything else, too. )


Yes, but plenty of mountains & snow ...

BTW : a SS of fixed gearing for a flat city commute is wayyyyy to tall for up and down hills .


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I think you guys are right. I was more scared about steep downhills because I can't do good fish-tailing.

I wasn't so worried about the distance I went on those trips to Kawasaki, because I already passed 10-12km when I found myself. It felt long when I got lost!

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P.S. Oh I gotta visit W-Base now. I love their net-store already.
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