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    New guy with plenty of questions :)

    Hello! I am a 22 year college student (graduating soon yay!) and am looking to build a bike. I have been lurking this forum for the past month and have gained an idea of what I'm getting into...

    To give you an idea on my build, I am 5'8" @ 138lbs. I'd say I have a healthy cardiovascular build since I was in track & field and cross-country back in high school. Back then I was 5'7" @ 113lbs, running low 4 minute 1600s... now I can only do low 6 minute miles

    Anyhow, I have a starting budget of $750. My expendable income is about $100/month. I've narrowed it down to:

    1. Mercier Kilo TT $350, replace the weaker components using the rest of the budget
    2. IRO Angus complete $650
    3. IRO Angus frame $350, build over the next two months (I have patience.)

    I will be commuting 3.2 miles (one way) through the crappy streets of Berkeley, CA. It's just one humongous hill. It's not extremely steep like San Francisco, but I'm sure it'd be a workout to do a good mile at a constant grade.

    I'll also be doing a lot of leisure riding with friends. Supposedly there's a 25 mile path that goes from Walnut Creek to... Pleasanton?

    I'm sure you all have suggestions and comments. I need all of the help I can get since I'm so new to this. Thanks in advance!

    Ivan

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    Like I said on h-t, get the frikin Kilo. It comes ready to ride, and whatever parts you do not like you can replace over time.

    It doesnt matter how far you have to go. You will ride it a lot more then you think. And your weight does not really need to be a factor...unless you're heavy i guess, but you weigh as much as a young girl so you should be fine You will have to find a gear ratio that works for you as well...no one is going to determine that for you.

    Get the kilo and decide if you really do want to ride fixed. You can always get a nicer frame down the road. I dont think IRO's are anything special anyway. But what do I know, i own a windsor.
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    hahahaha you stalker!

    I forgot to mention that I'm leaning more towards the Kilo TT. All of the parts I buy are transferrable, at least for the most part, right?

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    I'd get the IRO with a fixed-fixed hub. Worst case scenario you will throw a freewheel on one end, but given your fitness level I would be a bit surprised if that happens. There are a few long IRO threads around (as well as Kilo TT threads).
    Almost all of the parts will transfer if you get the Kilo, but you will be stuck with a lower quality frame. For me, the only reason to get the Kilo is if you think you will likely not enjoy the bike and you're afraid to make a more serious investment. If that is the case then the Kilo is your bike.

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    Mostly...

    It depends on what bike you get and what parts you want to transfer. Factor in chainring/crank BCD and bottom bracket length, also not all bikes have the same seat post diameter...plus handlebar diameters. Not everything can be swapped between bikes.

    www.sheldonbrown.com
    I linked it on ht, and I will link it again. You will find everything you need to know right there (for the most part).

    You will have to make the decision on which bike though. Seems as if the kilo has made a lot of people happy...regardless of it being cheap. It is still a bike!

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    Yeah theres a 25 mile path pleasanton to walnut creek.
    Iron horse trail, i live in pleasanton and do it a lot with my friends.

    I have a kilo tt that i built up, but a lot of my friends like iro.
    So i dont have much opinion, in my eyes an iro isnt too different to me than a kilo.

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    How does the iro angus complete compare to the kilo tt complete?

    Is it the components and hardware that make up the $300 price difference?

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    i've got the kilo tt i swapped out the stock wheels for some cxp's and i think the bikes awesome great starting bike i'd say go for it

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    Quote Originally Posted by korean View Post
    How does the iro angus complete compare to the kilo tt complete?

    Is it the components and hardware that make up the $300 price difference?

    www.irocycle.com
    Im assuming you've already checked thier site already? From what I remember, buying a complete IRO Angus is around 750 from there (thats with standard stuff)
    Im new to fixed gear riding, and I bought my IRO Angus on consignment and really enjoy it (but of course, I dont have much to compare it to!). From what Ive asked on my previous thread before I bought it, a lot of people on the forum told me it was a good buy, and when I searched reviews on it people really dug them. Either way, good luck on whichever direction you go!

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    you and i are the same size, i am a female
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    Those straps look more saggy than my 70 year-old middle school principle's boobs.

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    Mark V & Angus are great. I really like my Angus, and one of the reasons I got it was for the threaded fork and Reynolds frame. The other kicker was IRO's warranty; anything happens to the frame [wreck, whatever] you get a new frame 1/2 price. For a Mark V, that is $125.

    Plus, the Mark V can come with a rear brake if you think riding a SS would be nice every now and then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mandiejackson View Post
    you and i are the same size, i am a female
    whoa sounds like a pick up to me!

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    That warranty is very, VERY appealing. Especially if it's a lifetime warranty.

    So the Reynolds is that much better? A good amount of people say the Mark V is plenty fine... but I'd pay $70 more for that extra bit of quality

    I plan on riding this bike a LOT!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbizzle View Post
    whoa sounds like a pick up to me!


    !

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbizzle View Post
    whoa sounds like a pick up to me!
    haha, totally wasn't
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    Quote Originally Posted by peabodypride View Post
    Those straps look more saggy than my 70 year-old middle school principle's boobs.

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    the trail your talking about is the iron horse trail. its a very fun trail to ride, very flat and not too busy. i travel down it about every other weekend and its especially good if your just starting out.

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    IRO mark v / angus completes > kilo tt complete
    easily.

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    I probably rode on that trail once several years ago. I rode my BMX race bike on there. Very uncomfortable bike

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    i think the Mark V is a little more versatile than the Angus because a rear brake can be added. I have only ridden my Angus so I can't compare it to a Mark V in ride quality, but the geometry is identical, components identical, and only the frame material different. One reason I went with the Angus is because I wanted a quill stem. But a threadless setup sure would be nice when it comes time to change stems.
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    I don't know what a quill stem and threadless/non-threadless mean

    I'll google it when I get home.

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    Threaded is so pretty!!!

    Either way, I say go with an IRO. They can take a hell of a beating and complete are better than the Kilo from what I've read around this here forum.

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    For $300 more, it better be!

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    IRO, although I'd rather go for the Mark V than the Angus because I'm into kinky stuff like rear brakes and threadless stems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by korean View Post
    For $300 more, it better be!
    the difference is the wheelset. the IRO wheelset is way better than the stock kilo tt wheelset -- thats what you're paying for.

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    How about frames? Is the Mark V that much better than a Kilo TT? I'm sure the Angus is better than the other two.

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