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Old 06-11-09, 02:36 PM
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^^ I gotta agree. I liked some of Gyess' past bikes wayyyy better than the Spectrum.

But that's why it's a custom, as long as HE loves it then it's money well spent.
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I see nothing wrong with not cutting your steerer and using a setback post. Post your bike so I can make fun of it.

(EDIT: this post is in response to mr. laforge)
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what failed about it? he has spacers so he can change the feel of the bike for different types of riding. setback seat post is probably a personal preference to that he be above the back wheel more. and if you have seen the other pictures of his bike the light goes between the two cages on the back.
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If you build a custom frame, such things should be considered in the build. I can give the spacers a pass (reluctantly), but the need for a setback should have been met with the geometry of the frame in the first place. A setback is for when a stock frame doesnt fit exactly. A custom frame should fit. What this tells me is Spectrum suck at fitting.

A Record Pista? That frame begs for something modern and black.

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WOAH THERE CAPTAIN. Are you talking **** on Tom ****ing Kellogg?
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And about the spacers: sure, one can say he'd like to raise or lower the stem...blah blah blah...but I'm just not buying it. Looks like he owns stock in the Headset Spacer Corporation.

Cut that fork and get the correct size/angle stem. If the Saddle-to-Bar height is too much and you need that many spacers, well that's evidence that Spectrum sucks at fitting or Guesswho purchased the wrong components.
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Originally Posted by Astronomical
WOAH THERE CAPTAIN. Are you talking **** on Tom ****ing Kellogg?
Yes. I am not impressed.
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You're a ******.
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You're a ******.
nice refute of my opinion, princess.
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Originally Posted by Hirohsima
Why, after this, am I even considering posting my bike?

Gyeswho, are those 650c wheels or are you just a giant?
they are 700c. I'm no giant; I'm 5'11". The fat tubes give it that appearance

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Here it goes,... pitiful after Gyeswho's bike. Pitiful
your bike is not pitiful and my bike is not on any kind of pedestal to measure against.
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Gotta agree on the spectrum. That is a custom bike? Who was it made for, certainly not the current user?
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Originally Posted by Geordi Laforge
nice refute of my opinion, princess.
Ban me. Gyeswho's bike is awesome and you're just jealous.
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Also you ignored my request to see your bike so I can make fun of it.
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Originally Posted by Geordi Laforge
I actually think that spectrum is a fail. Why the setback seatpost and stack of spacers on a custom frame? Why the non-matching Record Pista? Isnt the tail light blocked by the butt rockets?

Close, but no cigar.
I don't like the idea of having a carbon fiber seatpost since a Thomson posts is a lot stronger than a Record post anyway. The post was much cheaper than a record post (why pay more $ for something that's not as strong and isn't going to add any significant improvement to the bike?) I got the seatpost (thomson elite) for $60 compared to $200 for a Record post.

If you're going to nitpick and say "then what is the need for the Record cranks?" My response is I got the Campy cranks brand new with 50T ring and Phil Wood BB for $250 from Totalcycling.com. At the time, the exchange rates were very great and allowed a great deal to be had. It was a no brainer to get them because Sugino 75 cranks w/o ring sell for $225 and Record cranks in the US regularly go for $400 and up brand new (Record BB's are close to $200).

No the light isn't blocked by the water holders.

Originally Posted by Geordi Laforge
If you build a custom frame, such things should be considered in the build. I can give the spacers a pass (reluctantly), but the need for a setback should have been met with the geometry of the frame in the first place. A setback is for when a stock frame doesnt fit exactly. A custom frame should fit. What this tells me is Spectrum (whoever they are) suck at fitting.

A Record Pista? That frame begs for something modern and black.
If you knew anything about Thomson setback, then you'd understand the setback is actually less than a regular seatpost (regular setposts usually have 20mm of setback and a SB Thomson has 16mm). A straight post Thomson has no setback at all. The builder, Tom Kellogg, who has been building (and racing) bikes for 30+ knows what he is doing.

What's wrong with spacers? The the reason for them is because the top tube diameter is larger than thin regular gauge steel tubing which raises the standover height. Tom had to lower TT height (in order to accomplish the same standover as regular sized tubing) so that way it maintained the standover height needed for me. If the tubing were thinner there wouldn't be a need for as many spacers and the TT height would be higher. So, no the builder didn't mess up.

I could cut the fork and angle it up, but I don't want to because I like the look of a straight stem more. Leaving space on a fork is a wise thing to do on a threadless to allow versatility. It's better to have a lot left, than cutting too much and wanting more later on. If I want to change bars, I have more room to work with. Every bike's fork doesn't have to be cut all the way down. The only reason for it is to increase stiffness. There's the common problem of people looking at pro setups and saying that all need to abide by their example. Last time I checked, I'm no pro.
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Originally Posted by Geordi Laforge
nice refute of my opinion, princess.
Good to see that the bike setup Nazi hasn't gotten bored of (wrongly) judging pictures of other people's bikes. Since you can fit people without even looking at them you should really go into the bike fit business, you can make some money.

There's absolutely nothing wrong with using spacers, that's just a friggin' aesthetic complaint. Maybe he didn't want to completely devalue and limit the future usefulness of a fork by chopping it down needlessly? The frame already has an extended head tube, I think it was designed with bar height just fine. And the setback post says absolutely nothing about the design either, one PERFECTLY REASONABLE reason to use a setback post is to align the cockpit without extending the wheelbase, for example.
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Also you ignored my request to see your bike so I can make fun of it.

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Originally Posted by Geordi Laforge
And about the spacers: sure, one can say he'd like to raise or lower the stem...blah blah blah...but I'm just not buying it. Looks like he owns stock in the Headset Spacer Corporation.

Cut that fork and get the correct size/angle stem. If the Saddle-to-Bar height is too much and you need that many spacers, well that's evidence that Spectrum sucks at fitting or Guesswho purchased the wrong components.
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this
Yeah, I'm really curious as to what his bike looks like now since he is the "Ultimate All Knowing Guru" of what a bike should look like.

btw, thanks for the understanding, sense, and support
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Originally Posted by zacked
Good to see that the bike setup Nazi hasn't gotten bored of (wrongly) judging pictures of other people's bikes. Since you can fit people without even looking at them you should really go into the bike fit business, you can make some money.

There's absolutely nothing wrong with using spacers, that's just a friggin' aesthetic complaint. Maybe he didn't want to completely devalue and limit the future usefulness of a fork by chopping it down needlessly? The frame already has an extended head tube, I think it was designed with bar height just fine. And the setback post says absolutely nothing about the design either, one PERFECTLY REASONABLE reason to use a setback post is to align the cockpit without extending the wheelbase, for example.
Good to see you actually know what's going on and have clear sighted vision
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Originally Posted by Geordi Laforge
but the need for a setback should have been met with the geometry of the frame in the first place. A setback is for when a stock frame doesnt fit exactly.
I can't believe you said that, massive fail!
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while it wasn't specifically on my behalf, thank you dom (gyes) for being an adult. your logic is sound.
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Originally Posted by chase.
while it wasn't specifically on my behalf, thank you dom (gyes) for being an adult. your logic is sound.
why thanks
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I think they're CX-Ray, but I'm not positive.
Whatever they are, the sole source last year was Zipp, and they didn't have that particular length.
Apparently an alternate source is now available, so I'm going to have to start to haunt them soon.
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Originally Posted by Geordi Laforge
If you build a custom frame, such things should be considered in the build. I can give the spacers a pass (reluctantly), but the need for a setback should have been met with the geometry of the frame in the first place. A setback is for when a stock frame doesnt fit exactly. A custom frame should fit. What this tells me is Spectrum suck at fitting.
No, you're wrong. Most seatposts are made with setback. The Thompson is just made with setback located in the post rather than in the clamp mech. One could argue that a no-setback seatpost is for when a stock frame doesn't fit exactly.

Furthermore, even if that wasn't the case, you could still be wrong. Maybe the builder designed the frame with certain angles to target a specific feel or handling of the bike, and designed around a seatpost with setback that would accommodate the rider's legs.

Saying that if you need setback, your bike doesn't fit correctly reeks of a) oversimplifying bike fit and b) ignoring a lot of components of bike fit and design.
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Originally Posted by Geordi Laforge
but the need for a setback should have been met with the geometry of the frame in the first place. A setback is for when a stock frame doesnt fit exactly.
Adding to the already mentioned fact that the Thomson still has less set-back than a normal seat post, have you ever run a Brooks saddle? They have much shorter rails than most other saddles. In some cases requiring a more set-back seatpost to achieve the same saddle position as you could get with a non-brooks saddle.

I really like that bike

Edit: Also I'll say that I run a similar bottle set-up on my Serotta for the summer and it's great. They're easy to grab from that position and you don't have to worry about clamping stuff to your frame if it isn't drilled.

Also, Hirohsima's bike is sweet. But, is there an extra chainring sitting on the inside of the crank?
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