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Old 03-19-09, 03:00 PM   #1
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Picking my First SS/FG bicycle

Hey guys I have been reading a bunch on this forum about BD and alot of people seem to not like there bicycles, but I have to say they look like some decent entry level bikes for a good price. I called my local bike shop today and the lowest price ont here SS was $500, so I thought hell I might as well try out BD. I thought before I picked something that I would be able to get some feedback from you guys. I am 6' 3" and I weigh 190lb. My inseam is about 34.5 inches so I am guessing I need a bike with a stand over height of 32" to 33.5". As of now I ride a 2008 trek 7100 hybrid 57cm with a stand over height of about 33 inch.
Basically I have narrowed it down to these bicycles listed below. Any feed back or comments will be greatly appreciated! Show some love for a fellow comrade who loves riding bicycles. I am new to SS/FG bicycling and I want to get one because of its simplicity, weight, and speed.

Mercier Kilo TT 57cm


Windsor The Hour 58cm


Dawes SST 61cm
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Hey guys I have been reading a bunch on this forum about BD and alot of people seem to not like there bicycles...
wrong. these have been accepted (and embraced) as the defacto entry level fixed gear.

(ps, get the kilo TT)
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I'm also in the same position. I've been lurking around forums and asking an annoying amount of questions. For around $350 the first two you listed seem to be the most popular. I personally think the Kilo TT is a fantastic deal If you go into the last two pages of the Kilo TT thread you can read up on some of the flaws of the bikes hardware.
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Old 03-19-09, 03:44 PM   #4
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Wow $350? $500? you guys got more $$ than brains Craigslist and local bike shop is your best friend.
Make one
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I admit it.
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Wow $350? $500? you guys got more $$ than brains Craigslist and local bike shop is your best friend.
Make one
look, someone who has no clue what they're talking about posting on the internet.
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Old 03-19-09, 03:56 PM   #7
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single speed is single speed big wheels get you further faster, new frame going to get more attention more like getting stolen faster, what else you want me to write?
Bike is bike, it all depends what you want to do with it, park it in your livingroom or ride it.
Thats what you probably do put it next to your tv so you can strear at it?
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I usually walk away from quarrels over the internet, but here's my 2 cents.

I like having new parts and you should respect that. Yes, the frame is junk but I'm no pro. I'm a complete beginner. Enough people have said that the Kilo TT is a fantastic starter bike and so I'll go with what I believe is the best choice. You can disagree but keep your sarcastic remarks.
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Windsor and Killo tt are both nice frames what about the components?
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They're junk. But they work. We're talking about a beginner bike. Of course some stuff is going to suck.
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Of those I'd go for the Kilo. If you've got a little extra cash you could step up and get the Pro for the better wheelset.

BTW, justiceman, you don't happen to play trombone do you?
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Thanks for the comments and no I don't play trombone but I use to play piano. Ya its inevitable that when you pay the cheapest price you will probably get some crappy parts, but I am sure they will last until I figure out what good parts to get for it. I am leaning towards the Kilo TT, but as of now they are out of stock in my frame size. I sent an email to see when they will be back. I might get The Hour because they do in fact have it in stock, but I think I want to wait for the Kilo TT, plus I like it in black.

EDIT: Also I was wondering. Would it be all that bad if the Kilo came with a threaded quill instead of threadless? And if I wanted to change it to threadless would I have to change out the forks?

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Since I am a rookie here cant recomend the the kilo tt, because pedal strike comes to mind, but people who have windsor hour are loving their bikes.
Good choice

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Thanks for the comments and no I don't play trombone but I use to play piano.
Oh. The reason I was asking is that I know a guy that plays trombone and matches your description of yourself whose real name is Justice Mann.
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Old 03-19-09, 05:07 PM   #15
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oh haha ya I usually use this name because I like the word and meaning. Yup I have to mull over this for a few days or wait on BD's email to tell me when kilo TT will be back in stock because I am not sure weather I want to get teh Kilo TT or the Windsor Hour.
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Hey guys I have one last quick question about the Kilo TT. last night I decided to jump the gun and order the 60cm because it was in stock instead of the 57cm. I have mixed feeling about my choice so I emailed Bikes direct to ask them If I could change it to a 57cm before they ship it out. I am 6' 2 almost 6' 3 with an inseam of about 35". My concern is the handle bars might be to far away. Was it a good choice to email back and ask for the 57cm instead of the 60cm?
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Why no Messenger on this list?

You should have ordered a 58cm Messenger in Orange. I hear that's what the cool kids are riding these days. (although mine isn't fixed or even SS anymore; IGH FTW)
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They're junk. But they work.

Junk = does not work.

Unless by 'junk' you mean, 'does not give me street cred'. Then, yeah. They are junk.

They work. Well. Many people have put many thousands of enjoyable miles on them with minimal upgrades.

I recommend them to people who want to try out fixed-gear bikes but don't want a lame conversion. If you get into it, you can part up, frame up, etc.


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Hey guys I have one last quick question about the Kilo TT. last night I decided to jump the gun and order the 60cm because it was in stock instead of the 57cm. I have mixed feeling about my choice so I emailed Bikes direct to ask them If I could change it to a 57cm before they ship it out. I am 6' 2 almost 6' 3 with an inseam of about 35". My concern is the handle bars might be to far away. Was it a good choice to email back and ask for the 57cm instead of the 60cm?
Good move. You definitely don't want a bike that's too big for you, and I even prefer my fixed-gear bikes to be a size smaller than what I usually ride. I don't know how it works with you freakishly tall guys, though ;]
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you didnt actually mention whether you wanted to ride SS or fixed. if you want to start with SS, why not consider the windsor clockwork, i just ordered one, and they seem like a fantastic value, plus you actually get brakes right out of the box, which is a good safe way to learn the ropes.

p.s. the clockwork comes with a flip-flop hub, so all you would need is a fixed cog and lockring to go fixed should you want to. just something to consider.
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price list of most popular complete bikes from disinx, thought it'd be helpful: http://urbanvelo.org/singlespeed-com...ikes-for-2009/
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