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Singlespeed & Fixed Gear "I still feel that variable gears are only for people over forty-five. Isn't it better to triumph by the strength of your muscles than by the artifice of a derailer? We are getting soft...As for me, give me a fixed gear!"-- Henri Desgrange (31 January 1865 - 16 August 1940)

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Old 03-23-09, 05:42 PM   #1
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Economic Crisis and CL

I, like most people here use Craigslist for bike related endeavors. I feel like I have a pretty good handle on the local bike market. Well, let's just say, I know what people a asking (not getting) for bikes and what I am able to sell them for. As of late CL went through some wild ups and downs. People were asking a lot and getting it, then asking a lot followed by a few price reductions, then asking a fair price and getting it, asking a fair price followed by a few price reductions...you get the picture. Anyway, locally, the bottom seems to have dropped out of the fixed gear market. I mean people are liquidating Bianchi Pistas like mad, wheelsets, parts, bags, everything is for sale at realistic prices(yes, some cats still think they're gonna get all the money they put into converting or upgrading bikes). Anyway, I wonder what factors are at work here. Some possibilities: Economic crisis, tax time, spring break, people finally coming to terms with the fact that the $800 bike they bought to look cool is just mocking them sitting in the living room unridden after the first week. Just wondering if the FG thing seems to be falling off amongst the...,well let's just say less than dedicated types...
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Old 03-23-09, 05:57 PM   #2
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ive noticed it too. In the summer i saw conversions with basic upgrades ( mostly some alex rims and maybe new bars) going for at least 300. Now i see people who cant get over 150 for any conversion at all, and those who cant even get over 250 for a cheap track complete
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Old 03-24-09, 04:23 PM   #3
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Summer/winter cycle...
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I agree with the OP.

To add another factor: I think the "cool" has gone out of fixed gears and hipsters in general. (Nike Dunks, anyone?) I mean h*ll, say "hipster bike" and even laymen know what to what you are referring. I'm not hating on the fad. After it's all said and done, there will be more people into bikes that would not have been turned on to them if it had not been for the hype.

The same can be said for the "Guitar Hero" effect on real guitar sales.
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...that being said. The whole fruity color thing can't get old fast enough.

Seriously people. Stop making clown bikes.



(Yeah, I had pink deep Vs 3 years ago...but that was 3 years ago)
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I agree with the OP.

To add another factor: I think the "cool" has gone out of fixed gears and hipsters in general. (Nike Dunks, anyone?) I mean h*ll, say "hipster bike" and even laymen know what to what you are referring. I'm not hating on the fad. After it's all said and done, there will be more people into bikes that would not have been turned on to them if it had not been for the hype.

The same can be said for the "Guitar Hero" effect on real guitar sales.
Dunks have BEEN the fad for the past 3-4 years. Anyone who's trying to get into now, isn't going to be in for long. I've retired from the shoe game for quite some time now..
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honestly, I believe the fixed gear trend is dying down. At least among the people that I know and see riding, gears are popular and appreciated again. Perhaps it's all the rage in Alabama or Idaho where the novelty is still high, but in NYC and Chicago and San Francisco and other first-wave cities, I believe the trend is nearly over or peaked.

this, coupled with the state of the economy, probably best explains what the OP has noticed.
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All I can say is I can't wait until all the people that bought their bikes as fashion accessories get tired of them in the next months/years and sell them for pittances. It will be great.
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anyone else chuckle at the 'teal deep v' thread recently started?
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The fad may be ending, but I doubt FG/SS will become a fringe cycling activity like it was 7+ years ago. It will remain fairly common, yet always secondary to geared cycling.
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Dunks have BEEN the fad for the past 3-4 years. Anyone who's trying to get into now, isn't going to be in for long. I've retired from the shoe game for quite some time now..
if only that time estimate was remotely right! excuse us normal folk, oh great sneaker veteran.
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Dunks have BEEN the fad for the past 3-4 years. Anyone who's trying to get into now, isn't going to be in for long. I've retired from the shoe game for quite some time now..
Ummm...that's my point. Dunks were IN in 2003-2005 and OUT in 2006.
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Ummm...that's my point. Dunks were IN in 2003-2005 and OUT in 2006.
You gotta admit though, the tail end of the black boxes and then the gold box dunks are all s*t releases. Not as limited as before and wack colorways.
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if only that time estimate was remotely right! excuse us normal folk, oh great sneaker veteran.
As a fad? Pretty accurate.
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I'll say this again. Fixed gear is becoming the gateway drug for me to real cycling. Yet, I still love the simplicity and joy of riding track bikes.
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Stick to SS/FG's cause not a gotdamn person here knows what there talking about when it comes to sneakers.
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I just started getting into riding fixed gear and it's rather difficult to explain your motives when you've joined in such a peak time.

My roommate got me into fixies since he's been riding for 3-4 years. Not to mention, we're far from the stereotypical "hipster" look, which excludes us from a majority of the fixie heads here at UCR.
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i got a fixed because when i rode my mountain bike as a commuter, i never changed gear anyway. always rode the high gear so when i had the money, i upgraded to fixed gear which is 30lbs lighter bike lol, plus much MUCH faster.

i dont have a messenger bag nor do i wear skinny jeans. i just ike riding.

and regarding the fad... im glad its gone down so ppl dont automatically think im a poser or hipster.
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Part of the fad I saw was not only for fixed gears but for bikes in general. Sales shot up in all types of bikes when gas hit over $4 a gallon. Now with gas back down there are people naive enough to believe that gas will never hit $4 again. They are ready to give up the bike and go back to driving the quad cab dually.

I say that because since gas prices fell I have seen an increase in the number of cage drivers telling me I am an idiot to be on a bicycle. But who is the idiot when I continue to catch them at one red light after another?

I bought my only fixed gear last May. Does it still mean I am following a fad when I have already rode over 2000 miles on it? I calculated that out and that means I have pedaled it over 1/2 million times. I don't feel like I am following a fad now anymore then I was when I bought my roadbike or my mountain bike. I enjoy riding all of them.
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I enjoy all kinds of cycling... Plus, the infamous "Why drive your car when you can ride your bike anywhere?"

Further more,
My A4 doesn't like to start 95% of the time. When it does, it runs like ****. (something about turbo seals and sucking coolant up like I do beer?) It takes me 15min tops to fix nearly anything on my bike, whereas my A4 requires at least 3 hours to get to said problem and another 6 to fix it. Its also too small to bang in, so whats the point of a european car when I can have a european bicycle?

Only thing the car has the bike doesnt is AWD for the snow and drifting + heated seats.

Two wheels > Four Rings.
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Stick to SS/FG's cause not a gotdamn person here knows what there talking about when it comes to sneakers.
You must be speaking for yourself. I was in the game before Nike had Air. Seriously.
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I see a few conversions pop up here and there, but it's nothing compared to the eternal stream of beach cruisers and Wal-Mart mountain bikes/BMX bikes.

Also, men should not be that into shoes. It is impossible for a dude to strut his stuff in sneakers and not look like a moron.
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arguing over shoes is pretty gay. how many threads are started here about how were not all hipsters?

anyway...
locally we have at least two different guys that were selling mad amounts of conversions on CL and ebay. im glad to see that neither are getting the prices they were last season as they dont sell anything of value. most of the bikes have random gearing due to them converting them as cheap as possible. some end up with high 60 gear inches, others with high 80's!

i cant tell you how many: spray painted looking frames, with uncut long ass flat bars, single speed with only a front brake bikes i have seen them post.
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Old steel road bikes are going to be the next fad because, seriously, they are effing amazing. They are also relatively cheap and can be left locked up without having to worry too much about them.
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