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Old 07-30-09, 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by ifthe21st
Wow. That looks fantastic. I might have just been converted. If the fork is drilled for a brake.
Yes the trick star fork will be drilled for brake.

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those built in tensioners seem poorly designed or maybe I'm just missing something
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What size is tah frame pictured above 53?
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Originally Posted by The LT
those built in tensioners seem poorly designed or maybe I'm just missing something
why do you say that?
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Old 07-31-09, 09:54 AM
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It seems to me that the built in tensioner will only allow you to contact the axle nut and not the axle itself...or you can contact the axle but then the nut would only be in contact with the small piece of steel instead of having contact most of the way around

unless there will be inserts on the top and bottom that aren't there yet
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i'm sure it'll move laterally
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I know it will move laterally that is not my question with the design. My question is why the part that connects with the axle extends out beyond the face of the track ends
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the dropouts look pretty short. i really like the idea of those tensioners, but a nut would probably work better than that smooth wheel, getting grip on itmight be tough.

Kawasaki steel? Totally awesome, I run a Kawi dealer. Make sure to paint a frame in Team Green!
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Originally Posted by The LT
I know it will move laterally that is not my question with the design. My question is why the part that connects with the axle extends out beyond the face of the track ends
perhaps you're not understanding what i meant


since it moves laterally, when you tighten the nuts down, it will not extend any further than the track ends
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New idea for leader: tell us what kind of steel is used on that nice track frame w/ the chrome lugs. I think it's BS that you guys don't put that on the description and provide that weird excuse. Would probably sell a lot more if you did say what type of tubing it is. Especially if it is nice like 853 or something.
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Originally Posted by The LT
I know it will move laterally that is not my question with the design. My question is why the part that connects with the axle extends out beyond the face of the track ends

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Originally Posted by MysticRats
What size is tah frame pictured above 53?
58cm actuual weight 4 lb 9 oz
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Originally Posted by PedallingATX
New idea for leader: tell us what kind of steel is used on that nice track frame w/ the chrome lugs. I think it's BS that you guys don't put that on the description and provide that weird excuse. Would probably sell a lot more if you did say what type of tubing it is. Especially if it is nice like 853 or something.
Please note this information has nothing to do with the bike above.

All we can say is the HMT is made with a mix of 853 and 525 steel. Just not enough material to declare the bike 853 steel. We were not aware of this ruling by Renolds and prefer not to use or declare this awesome bike 525. Anyway the frame is discontinued and all future HMT frames will now be made of Kawasaki or Founder Land steel.

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Originally Posted by brendon_ak
the dropouts look pretty short. i really like the idea of those tensioners, but a nut would probably work better than that smooth wheel, getting grip on itmight be tough.

Kawasaki steel? Totally awesome, I run a Kawi dealer. Make sure to paint a frame in Team Green!
This is a trick frame and the dropouts were designed for this. No half link is needed. yesterday we rode on a 46 x 19 ratio. Wheel was all the way inside the axle with pleanty of space if needed.

Kawasaki is a massive company that makes so many things. check https://www.khi.co.jp/index_e.html

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Originally Posted by LeaderBike

I think he was talking about the outer surface of the track end. The part that the nut tightens to. These pictures are of the inside surface of the track ends.
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Originally Posted by ryze
I think he was talking about the outer surface of the track end. The part that the nut tightens to. These pictures are of the inside surface of the track ends.
This design is the same used on dirt jump, bike trials, and other bikes that take alot of abuse. We tested this design months before production and they are flawless and compliment the frame. Also the way the dropout works great is it will protect the axle when people perform a grinding trick on the bike.

Again this is a trick track bike. If you prefer standard dropouts look to the 722TS.
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Originally Posted by ryze
I think he was talking about the outer surface of the track end. The part that the nut tightens to. These pictures are of the inside surface of the track ends.
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Originally Posted by LeaderBike
This design is the same used on dirt jump, bike trials, and other bikes that take alot of abuse. We tested this design months before production and they are flawless and compliment the frame. Also the way the dropout works great is it will protect the axle when people perform a grinding trick on the bike.

Again this is a trick track bike. If you prefer standard dropouts look to the 722TS.

I've never seen this style before so does the tensioner push on the axle nut instead of the axle itself?
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oh wait weird...i just caught what you were saying...it'll hit the nut and not the axle
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Originally Posted by The LT
I've never seen this style before so does the tensioner push on the axle nut instead of the axle itself?
This tensioner makes contact with the nut. With this dropout it is extremely secure and for the most part better than if it just touched the axle. Thje nut is fully flush with the dropout and extremely secured. If anyone wants the tentioner can easly be removed and you can use back end tentions not that it will ever be needed. Rememer the tensioner is only so your wheel does not move..

Yesterday Kareem from Death pedal jumped an 8ft drop on this bike. Only issue during landing he had was when his seat post snapped in half. Frame and all other parts were fine.

https://twitpic.com/c6uwa

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Originally Posted by LeaderBike
This tensioner makes contact with the nut. With this dropout it is extremely secure and for the most part better than if it jut touched the axle. If anyone wants the tentioner can easly be removed and you can use back end tentions not that it will ever be needed. Rememer the tensioner is only so your wheel does not move.
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Originally Posted by LeaderBike
This tensioner makes contact with the nut. With this dropout it is extremely secure and for the most part better than if it just touched the axle. Thje nut is fully flush with the dropout and extremely secured.
Now that I really look at this, I can see why tensioning against the nut is a good design. The tension placed on the chain is not very much and makes it possible to turn the nut while under tension. Once fully tightened, the nut would effectively be held in place by the tensioner, and help prevent it from coming loose. It would kind of work like a lock-washer, only with latteral pressure instead of in-line pressure. This effect wouldn't happen if the tensioner were on the inside of the nut, against the axle...........................................I think.
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Originally Posted by LeaderBike
Yesterday Kareem from Death pedal jumped an 8ft drop on this bike. Only issue during landing he had was when his seat post snapped in half. Frame and all other parts were fine.

https://twitpic.com/c6uwa
Is THAT the fork?
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Old 07-31-09, 03:18 PM
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Wait... how does a seat post snap on landing a drop? Was he actually sitting on it? Ouch?
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