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Old 03-26-09, 06:53 AM   #1
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Hi everyone,

So here is my dilema. I recently traded a Rear velocity deep V with a Steelwool hub for a 82-86 ish Red Marinoni bike in a really decent shape.. I usually don't like conversions but when I saw the bike's geometry I felt in love right away, really similar to a track frame. Since I work in a bike shop I had a pretty good deal on the parts for my conversion: dura-ace headset, Sram omnium crank + truvativ giga pipe gxp, nitto NJ pro 90mm, dura-ace 16T cog. I recieved my parts yesterday and assembled the bike on the spot. The only thing missing is a rear white velocity deep V to match the front one and a riser bar (i ordered a gusset open prison). So for now the rear wheel is a cheap alex rim + a no name kind of hub.. I rode the bike all night and it was a blast, the bike is fast and nimble. It feels exactly like a track frame.

So here is the part where I need your advice guys, Should I chop all the "road bike" stuff like the shifter mounts on the down tube, the cable guides on the top tube and the derailler hanger? I planning on ordering some new decals for the bike and the color code as well to repaint it.. Would it be a disgrace to mangle this frame with a grinder? The other techs @ the shop told me not to do it since it looks like a pretty vintage bike (it had a campy record gruppo..) ...
So what do you think guys?

Julian.

*I'll post some pictures of the bike tonight*
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Old 03-26-09, 07:05 AM   #2
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Old 03-26-09, 08:12 AM   #3
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build it up as a rode bike and give it to me!

seriously though, I've never understood most conversions. IMO the only reason to build up a conversion would be if you had enough parts lying around and a frameset that's compatible with them. voila, you have a free or very cheap ss/fg bike. but the idea of taking a perfectly good road bike and spending all kinds of money to convert it to single speed just doesn't make sense. why not use that money on a proper ss/fg bike and leave the road bike in it's intended form - a road bike.

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Old 03-26-09, 08:24 AM   #4
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I would say do what you want. My opinion is, chop everything off, build it and ride it otherwise it will be another unridden bike. As long as the bike is being ridden, thats all that really matters. But to each his/her own. Dont let anyone tell you that it is wrong and blah blah blah. Just do as you wish. Ride the damn bike and enjoy every minute of it. I do. My 2 cents.
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this is a question i often ask - why would you go to the trouble of chopping everything off & doing a repaint/getting new decals? You are looking at $200+ cost to do a good job. That's almost a new bike - i've paid less than that for complete used bikes before.
What if you find a great marinoni track frame while using this one - wouldnt you be happier having a functional road bike to match?

Let the frame be, in a year or so your situation might change. Don't chop it up, don't repaint and put that $200 towards something else bike related.
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Old 03-26-09, 09:15 AM   #6
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Chop it all off, that bike is junk.
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Build it up and ride it. Don't grind anything off.

Here is what I did with mine (sorry for the crappy pic)



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My old Marinoni, full Dura Ace 7400 group. I probably shouldn't have sold it but I might have another nice one coming my way soon...


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Old 03-26-09, 10:33 AM   #9
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I do. The frame is Columbus SLX and the ride is amazing. I just upgraded to 10 speed mix of Ultegra and Dura-ace. I need to take a new picture.
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here's mine:


To OP, I once had a nice road bike that I converted into a fixed gear, it was my first fixed gear ever. I was gonna take all the cables guide and hanger off but just changed my mind. I bought a track frame a month later and put all the parts from my conversion on it and rebuild the road bike with the Suntour cyclone gruppo. Everytime I'm on this bike (the road bike), I thank God for making me change my mind a couple of years back. This is my story, do what you want now.
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why in the **** would anyone chop the braze ons off a marinoni?

i chopped mine off of a univega 100 conversion, but that's like tearing the crust off a slice of wonderbread... you're talking about taking the frosting off a wedding cake.
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Add my name to the list of those that say you shouldn't hack anything off. Marinoni has to be one of, if not the, most prestigious brand in this country, so I feel like modding it would be a real loss.

Cynikal: Damn nice bike you've got there. A red SLX Marinoni in 55cm is my dream frame. Goddam. If that's a 55 and you ever need to get rid of it...
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Add my name to the list of those that say you shouldn't hack anything off. Marinoni has to be one of, if not the, most prestigious brand in this country, so I feel like modding it would be a real loss.

Cynikal: Damn nice bike you've got there. A red SLX Marinoni in 55cm is my dream frame. Goddam. If that's a 55 and you ever need to get rid of it...
This might be a 55, it is in St. Catherines for $400: http://stcatharines.kijiji.ca/c-buy-...AdIdZ116169339
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Thanks, but I doubt I'll be getting rid of it anytime soon. Mine is a 56 square.
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i'd ride the **** ouf of this
you need a new old bicycle.
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Thanks for your advices guys, I will keep the road bike stuff on. It would be totally stupid to do such things on that frame. I'll ride it converted FG for now untill I find myself a decent lugged noni track frame. They are hard to find but I'll keep my eyes open.
I will post some pictures of the conversion soon.

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Thanks for your advices guys, I will keep the road bike stuff on. It would be totally stupid to do such things on that frame. I'll ride it converted FG for now untill I find myself a decent lugged noni track frame. They are hard to find but I'll keep my eyes open.
I will post some pictures of the conversion soon.

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Good decision Julian. I cut up a marinoni when I was a noob because I was too stupid to know any better. It's a fine roadfix, but i still regret my pointless decision.
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yes that is a weird thing on some conversions, if it is nice enogh to value it is nice enough to preserve pristine or sell to get what u want
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If you find a track bike or frame that matches mine, please let me know. I would love a matched set.
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So here are a few cheap cell phone shots of the bike untill i get nicer ones.





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Chopping things off a Marinoni. Are you insane?

Do you realize that except for being made in Montreal, a Marinoni is every bit the classic Italian road bike that all the other big Italian names are?
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your conversion is stunning. nicely done.
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What jackass took a deep v wheel for a marinoni frame?!
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Old 03-28-09, 08:11 AM   #24
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The guy is waaay too tall for that bike actually so I guess it made the choice easier for him.. Believe it or not but that guy bought the bike w/ full campy record group off the original owner for 100$. He bought an old desmarais frame after the trade.
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If its any comfort, with the right market, that frame set would fetch enough to cover the purchase of an IRO or similar. Personally, I think you made the right choice in keeping its braze-ons. If you're that hard for a lugged Marinoni track frame, give them a call? They do braze frames up there, and I'm sure they can still do you up a custom lugged steel frameset.

It's kind of funny how Marinoni is a semi-hidden secret: they make affordable high-quality custom bikes right in Quebec (Steel & Ti - CF is outsourced), but spend nil on marketing. Even more lulzy when you think that fools pay $2k+ for custom steel from shops like Vanilla when Marinoni will do it for under $1k CAD (~$800 USD).
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