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Old 03-28-09, 06:56 PM   #1
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PAKE vs. ANDEL

So I am about to purchase a crank for my fixed gear conversion build up. I am looking for a cheap, decent crank that is black. I currently have a 107mm bottom bracket, so I was going to try and reuse that if possible. I have narrowed down my choice to two diff. options:

Pake Crank

Andel (old style) crank

The Pake crank is about 40 bucks cheaper online than the Andel crank. Is it worth the extra money to get the Andel crank or should I just stick with the Pake. Does anyone here use a Pake or Andel, if so, how are they??
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107 will work but the pedal position will be off from side to side.

the pake is a 130bcd andel with a pake logo and color coating. they are literally the same design in a different size, made in the same place by the same people. unless you want to use a 144bcd ring, i'd save yourself the 40 dollars.
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i have the andel because 144 bcd makes you go faster

i just like the look of the old style andel better
they're good. no problems with mine.
i'm sure there are a bunch of seperate threads that cover pros and cons of both.
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yeah i searched the threads for both, and found some OLD threads about pake and then a few little things about Andel, but I wanted to start a new one to get some good info from people who have used both these cranks. I don't care AT ALL about 130 vs. 144, in fact, 130 might be better cause the chainrings are probably more common/cheaper. I didn't realize they were made by the same people though...that is making this decision easier...anyone else use Pake?
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i have kazane which are logo'd/color'd 144's by the same people. the soma hellyer are the same too but with a nicer brushed coated finish and polished ring.

i really suggest you get the pake. i've looked at them in person and they look great, plus you can fit a lower tooth ring if you ever wanted to.
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Pake is made by Soma. I believe it's their "budget" brand. Kinda like Honda is to Acura.
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Pake is made by Soma. I believe it's their "budget" brand. Kinda like Honda is to Acura.
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Pk is not a part of Soma. We know there has been some confusion. But Pk is the project of one of our "associates." So we are helping him out by promoting it here. Visit the Pake site at www.pakebikes.com.
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Yeah, after looking at lots of info I have decided to go with the Pake crankset for the following reason:

There isn't a big diff. b/w it and the Andel crank, so I might as well budget now so I can save up for some Campy/Dura Ace/75 cranks in the future. Also, I want a black crank now cause this bike is black but I will probably want silver cranks if I ever build up a white or colored bike like I want to. Thanks for your info.
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