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Old 03-29-09, 03:03 PM   #1
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IRO Custom color wheel set vs. Velocity Deep V's and maybe Weinnman DP18's too...

Hello all,

I'm in the market for some colored wheels. I was wondering if anyone has had experience between IRO, Velocity, or Weinmann. I know there is much debate between V's and dp18's with weight and quality..etc.. but I haven't heard much about the IRO. Well, what I have heard is good, so I'd like to get more input about them. They're a bit more, but not much, and they make many colors and you can pretty much customize the set how ever you like: hubs, spokes, rim..etc. What I do like about the V's is the anodized green color. Anyway, anyone with input I'd greatly appreciate it. Quality? Assurance? style? weight?

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DP18's are the same weight as the Deep v's, they're both machine built (unless you get them purposely handbuilt at your LBS) so long as you true and retension when you get the wheelset, they are both decent.

It was my understanding that "IRO" wheelsets were just velocity wheelsets.
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DP18's are the same weight as the Deep v's, they're both machine built (unless you get them purposely handbuilt at your LBS) so long as you true and retension when you get the wheelset, they are both decent.

It was my understanding that "IRO" wheelsets were just velocity wheelsets.
DP18's are heavier than Deep V's.
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DP18's are heavier than Deep V's.
No they're not. At least not the rim anyways. I personally weighed the Deep v's and DP18's at the shop. Identical weight.
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i have a set of the dp18's ive beat on them by jumping on them and up curbs and such and they are still rollin straight and they are 100 bucks cheaper than deep v's but then again they are not deep v's
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It was my understanding that "IRO" wheelsets were just velocity wheelsets.
not anymore. Tony used to do deep v's with rebranded formula hubs, but that was a couple years ago.

they're essentially rebranded velocity fusions to rebranded gran compe hubs with some sort of higher spec'd bearings. not sure of the spokes. hand-built by Tony.
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they're essentially rebranded velocity fusions to rebranded gran compe hubs with some sort of higher spec'd bearings. not sure of the spokes. hand-built by Tony.
That's interesting, thanks for the info.
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velocity quality control sucks these days, by the way.

get the dp18s or the IROs. both are fine.
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velocity quality control sucks these days, by the way.
Having built up and seen velocity rims lately, I would tend to concur.
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they're essentially rebranded velocity fusions to rebranded gran compe hubs with some sort of higher spec'd bearings. not sure of the spokes. hand-built by Tony.
That's really good to know, actually.
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what do you mean by their quality control being bad? I just bought a pair of velocity wheels from wheel and sprocket which are built up using formula hubs. I was under the impression that Velocity wheels are better quality than Weinmanns, is that not the case?
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I doubt this actually has anything to do with the rims themselves, but I have a set of Deep Vs and a set of IRO rims, both built by Tony. The Vs are still perfectly true while the IRO front has a noticeable wobble. It's not enough that I've bothered to true it yet, but it is visible while riding and that set has far fewer miles on it.
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i have a set of the dp18's ive beat on them by jumping on them and up curbs and such and they are still rollin straight and they are 100 bucks cheaper than deep v's but then again they are not deep v's
It's called punctuation. You should try using it sometime.

My DP18s held up fine.
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what do you mean by their quality control being bad? I just bought a pair of velocity wheels from wheel and sprocket which are built up using formula hubs. I was under the impression that Velocity wheels are better quality than Weinmanns, is that not the case?
higher demand has led to rushed production and a reduction of quality control. velocity hasnt been able to keep things in check lately or they just dont care and are cutting corners because they realize the demographic that rides these rims probably wouldnt know the difference.
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No they're not. At least not the rim anyways. I personally weighed the Deep v's and DP18's at the shop. Identical weight.
thats a hasty generalization
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i just got a set of DP18's, very glad i chose them over deep v's. they're $100 cheaper and you could argue identical quality.
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higher demand has led to rushed production and a reduction of quality control. velocity hasnt been able to keep things in check lately or they just dont care and are cutting corners because they realize the demographic that rides these rims probably wouldnt know the difference.
Any facts to back this up or are you just regurgitating what you read on this board?
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thats a hasty generalization

How so, Luke?
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Any facts to back this up or are you just regurgitating what you read on this board?
how about this -- go talk to any wrench that builds velocity wheels regularly and you'll have your "facts."
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How the **** is that a generalization. I weighed two SPECIFIC rims. 700C.
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How the **** is that a generalization. I weighed two SPECIFIC rims. 700C.
its a generalization because velocity purchasers just had their world shattered and are trying to be justified.
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I remember when DP-18's first came out and this forum ripped the very notion of them to shreds...

FWIW DP-18's are pinned, Deep-V's are pinned and bonded.
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How do I make a poll?

Let's take a vote!

IRO Custom
Velocity Deep V's
Weinmann DP-18's

Explain why, also.
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go with IRO.

1. handbuilt
2. lighter than deep v's and dp18s
3. can make any ugly color combo you want.
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i've been riding the IRO wheels for over a year with no problems on brick streets.
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