Cycling and bicycle discussion forums. 
   Click here to join our community Log in to access your Control Panel  


Go Back   > >

Singlespeed & Fixed Gear "I still feel that variable gears are only for people over forty-five. Isn't it better to triumph by the strength of your muscles than by the artifice of a derailer? We are getting soft...As for me, give me a fixed gear!"-- Henri Desgrange (31 January 1865 - 16 August 1940)

User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 03-30-09, 06:10 PM   #1
jblaze25
stinker
Thread Starter
 
jblaze25's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: MD
Bikes:
Posts: 4
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Better to buy or to build?

i'm just getting my feet wet into bikes. i need one for commuting from my living space to my work place, and i need one on the cheap.

i know if i build, it would probably be cheaper, but cost more time, but at the same time i'll learn a lot more about my bike and form an everlasting affectionate bond with my project. but at the same time, buying would be a hell of a lot more convenient.... how'd you guys start out with your first bike, bought or built?
jblaze25 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-30-09, 06:16 PM   #2
bbattle
.
 
bbattle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Rocket City, No'ala
Bikes: 2014 Trek Domane 5.2, 1985 Pinarello Trevisio, 1991 Colnago Master, '06 Bianchi San Jose, 1987 Moulton Fuso, 1990 Gardin Shred, '82 John Howard(Dave Tesch)
Posts: 12,568
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6 Post(s)
Better to buy than to build. Cheaper by a long shot. Although you can sometimes find something rideable at the thrift stores or at garage sales; it's hit or miss, may take months and you'll still probably need to replace some parts. And it would be a good idea to regrease the bottom bracket, wheel hubs, replace brake cables, and probably the chain. Not to mention the tubes and tires.

Buy your first bike, then be on the look out for super deals that don't require much work at all. You can check with the guys and gals on the Classic and Vintage forum; they have tons of bikes in their garages and many flip bikes for a living.

Or, you can do what I did, and spend tons of cash building up bikes that will never be worth what I put into them.

Last edited by bbattle; 03-30-09 at 06:23 PM.
bbattle is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-30-09, 08:11 PM   #3
Demens
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Bikes:
Posts: 59
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Buy New or Assemble from Parts?

Check out my thread I made yesterday with the same title
Demens is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-30-09, 08:20 PM   #4
IbikezLA
Senior Member
 
IbikezLA's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Bikes:
Posts: 459
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
well how much of the bike will you have before you need to get new parts? I bought a clean frame + headset + handle bar + brake levers + crank set + front wheel + seat post for $100

all I need now is a rear wheel, cog, lock ring, and chain.
IbikezLA is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-30-09, 08:48 PM   #5
dervish
unofficial
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: san rafael, CA
Bikes:
Posts: 1,054
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
i prefer building because i think you get more experience out of it and it's also handy to know how to work on your bike, if you need the bike soon and are looking for a cheaper way to get one, i would probably go with buying a premade bike. you can find entry level ss and fg for pretty cheap
dervish is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-30-09, 08:57 PM   #6
ilikebikes
K2ProFlex baby!
 
ilikebikes's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: My response would have been something along the lines of: "Does your bike have computer controlled suspension? Then shut your piehole, this baby is from the future!"
Bikes: to many to list
Posts: 6,087
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by dervish View Post
i prefer building because i think you get more experience out of it and it's also handy to know how to work on your bike, if you need the bike soon and are looking for a cheaper way to get one, i would probably go with buying a premade bike. you can find entry level ss and fg for pretty cheap
Like this one, $450.00 cheaper if you look around.

__________________
You see, their morals, their code...it's a bad joke, dropped at the first sign of trouble. They're only as good as the world allows them to be. I'll show you. When the chips are down, these...These "civilized" people...they'll eat each other. See, I'm not a monster. I'm just ahead of the curve
ilikebikes is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-30-09, 09:17 PM   #7
jblaze25
stinker
Thread Starter
 
jblaze25's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: MD
Bikes:
Posts: 4
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
wow, that baby is so beautiful O.O can't believe my eyes... i'm such a fg virgin!
jblaze25 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-30-09, 10:16 PM   #8
soul05
niteridar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: sfbay area
Bikes: giant fixed gear and a cannondale road bike
Posts: 205
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
the new ones are yellow. still pretty nice
soul05 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-30-09, 10:43 PM   #9
Chicagoan
Senior Member
 
Chicagoan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Chi-town
Bikes: Fixie conversion, a few 10 speeds, a trailer, I GT Transeo for utilitarian riding
Posts: 487
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
If you are talking fixie, build your first one, and don't spend more than 400.

Frame and fork w/ wierd shimano crank w/ a freewheel built in $50
old quil stem and chop and flop bullhorns $20
Wheelset w/ cheap tires and cog $140
New BB $30
Random SS crank from Co-op $5
Chain $10
Vintage Pedals and clips + new straps $20
Bar Tape $10
Brake and brake handle Free
Assembly (Like $70)

Misc Parts

Freestyle Axle Pegs $15
700x23c Armadillos $80
Oury Grips $10

And I love my bike, It gets me around great.
Chicagoan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-30-09, 10:56 PM   #10
IbikezLA
Senior Member
 
IbikezLA's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Bikes:
Posts: 459
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
If there happens to be a bike co-op around town you can get most of what you need for dirt cheep
IbikezLA is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-30-09, 11:35 PM   #11
brandonspeck
everyday I'm hustlin'
 
brandonspeck's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Portland, OR
Bikes: Surly Crosscheck, Surly Steamrolla
Posts: 453
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I personally recommend buying, then upgrading parts once you ride it and learn how the components work, and how you want to ride your bike.

Building a ss/fg when you don't know anything can be very very costly, and when you don't know much you'll end up buying cheap components. So you might as well get a cheap bikesdirect bike, or shop around for an entry level ssfg, it will be cheaper.

Conversions are also an option. However, with the spike in popularity of ssfg, many frames worth converting are already snatched up on craigslist, or are overpriced due to the popularity.
brandonspeck is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-30-09, 11:37 PM   #12
ilikebikes
K2ProFlex baby!
 
ilikebikes's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: My response would have been something along the lines of: "Does your bike have computer controlled suspension? Then shut your piehole, this baby is from the future!"
Bikes: to many to list
Posts: 6,087
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by soul05 View Post
the new ones are yellow. still pretty nice
and they also have the new ones in black, but they used brushed steel for the fork and seat stays instead of chrome. looks like total horse ****.
__________________
You see, their morals, their code...it's a bad joke, dropped at the first sign of trouble. They're only as good as the world allows them to be. I'll show you. When the chips are down, these...These "civilized" people...they'll eat each other. See, I'm not a monster. I'm just ahead of the curve
ilikebikes is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-30-09, 11:39 PM   #13
ilikebikes
K2ProFlex baby!
 
ilikebikes's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: My response would have been something along the lines of: "Does your bike have computer controlled suspension? Then shut your piehole, this baby is from the future!"
Bikes: to many to list
Posts: 6,087
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by jblaze25 View Post
wow, that baby is so beautiful O.O can't believe my eyes... i'm such a fg virgin!
Oh there are much better than mine (SS BTW) out there, you just have to look.
__________________
You see, their morals, their code...it's a bad joke, dropped at the first sign of trouble. They're only as good as the world allows them to be. I'll show you. When the chips are down, these...These "civilized" people...they'll eat each other. See, I'm not a monster. I'm just ahead of the curve
ilikebikes is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-31-09, 12:24 AM   #14
Jasper_biketh
Junior Member
 
Jasper_biketh's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Eugene, Oregon.
Bikes: A trusty Giant MTB, a converted Raleigh fixed gear, and a renovated mystery road bike.
Posts: 16
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
This one cost me ~$200 to build, and it feels great to ride. I've slowly been upgrading parts, and the cost is pretty manageable.

Like IbikezLA said, go to a local used bike shop; they should have most of what you need. And, as always, consult SheldonBrown.com
Attached Images
File Type: jpg GH_current2.jpg (88.4 KB, 29 views)
Jasper_biketh is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-31-09, 08:06 PM   #15
jblaze25
stinker
Thread Starter
 
jblaze25's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: MD
Bikes:
Posts: 4
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
oh sick bike.. i like the brake on the handle bar
jblaze25 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-31-09, 08:44 PM   #16
carleton
Elitist
 
carleton's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Atlanta, GA
Bikes:
Posts: 13,361
Mentioned: 10 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 168 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chicagoan View Post
If you are talking fixie, build your first one, and don't spend more than 400.

A friend of mine was given that exact advice for her first fixed gear. Dude told her to get a Kilo TT (like him) for $350.

After listening to him whine, pine, and moan about all these other nice bikes out there that dude wanted (they work together), her response was, "Why would I buy the $350 bike? Why would I get the bike that you are trying to upgrade from? I'm just going to want to upgrade myself pretty soon. Why don't I just buy a nice bike from the start?" I smiled.

Being financially responsible and (obviously) reasonable she had the cash to drop on a Fuji Track Comp...that her co-worker now envies. "Can I ride your bike again?..."

Take your time and buy a good off the shelf bike that is as close to what you want as you can get and tweak from there. Very few bikes are absolutely perfect for any one person out of the box.

Most cheap conversions of franken-bikes are bikes-of-convenience made of parts that are lying around and/or cheap. They are lying around and cheap for a reason...no one wants to use them. You get what you pay for.

I'm not speaking from on-high. I've built several franken-bikes either because I was broke or bored. In the end I sold them all for less than I invested into them.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by gtrob View Post
Roadies can run tempo all year as that's what humans were designed for. If you want to be a cheetah, lay around and lick your paws more.
carleton is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 01:27 PM.