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    Deep V's and DP18's

    Alright, there may have been a thread about this before im not sure.

    But it seems tons of people are asking "whats the difference" or "which is better".

    I really don't know of any differences between the wheels, and neither do all my friends I've asked.

    So if you have any idea of major differences post them, let people know!

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    DP18: pinned
    Deep-V: pinned, bonded, and finished to a smooth surface

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldfolksmashers View Post
    DP18: pinned
    Deep-V: pinned, bonded, and finished to a smooth surface
    translation: Sturdier, more durable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oldfolksmashers View Post
    DP18: pinned
    Deep-V: pinned, bonded, and finished to a smooth surface
    anyone know what each thing (i.e. pinning, bonding, finishing to smooth surface) has to do with the sturdiness of the wheel?

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    Quote Originally Posted by muckymucky View Post
    anyone know what each thing (i.e. pinning, bonding, finishing to smooth surface) has to do with the sturdiness of the wheel?
    Has nothing to do with it. People just like to list all these things as if it actually mattered. It doesn't. The deep v's are just as 'good' as the DP18's. Which in reality, isn't spectacular.
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    DP18s however are $100 cheaper abd come in a multitude of different colors just like Deep Vs. I've ridden the **** out of my dp18s that i've had since september, up/down curbs, potholes, brick roads and theyre still in perfect true. I mounted tires on them right out of the box because I was too impatient to get them tensioned at a shop and theyre still smooth and true. Theyre a little heavy but I'll take it with the durability

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    When it comes to my choice of deep v wheels, I go with Velocity's. There's no losing there. Strength and quality. DEAL WITH IT.

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    Velocitys don't have a little step-down from the braking surface, and I can't stand it. Super lame, I know but I wanted exactly what I wanted.
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    just come to so-cal! deep v's are $100 cheaper here!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ADSR View Post
    Velocitys don't have a little step-down from the braking surface, and I can't stand it. Super lame, I know but I wanted exactly what I wanted.
    really, I always thought that was the ugliest part of the DP-18

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    Quote Originally Posted by muckymucky View Post
    anyone know what each thing (i.e. pinning, bonding, finishing to smooth surface) has to do with the sturdiness of the wheel?
    It means your rim is a million times less likely to start peeling apart at the joint, or develop a gap at least.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldfolksmashers View Post
    It means your rim is a million times less likely to start peeling apart at the joint, or develop a gap at least.
    the numbers cant lie.

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    wat about the rigida dp18's?

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    Its likely that all these rims will be great if properly built. I wouldn't sweat it. Finding somebody who has built more than a few sets of wheels would help.

    My machine built rear velocity deep v has been good. But I think if I were to do it all over again I'd find a cheap rim and go with double butted spokes and a pro wheel builder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldfolksmashers View Post
    DP18: pinned
    Deep-V: pinned, bonded, and finished to a smooth surface
    Don't forget to add "stickered" to the list of things that Velocity does to keep the rim together. I was really worried when taking my Velocity sticker off that it might cause the joint to gap apart! So far, so good though! I'm keeping my fingers crossed
    skinnytire

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    Quote Originally Posted by PedallingATX View Post
    Don't forget to add "stickered" to the list of things that Velocity does to keep the rim together. I was really worried when taking my Velocity sticker off that it might cause the joint to gap apart! So far, so good though! I'm keeping my fingers crossed
    is this a joke?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SoreFeet View Post
    double butted spokes and a pro wheel builder.
    the pro wheel builder at my LBS doesnt know **** about fixed, and swears that id be an ******* for using anything but straight spokes. i have, however, done some homework, and have read that the double butter are stronger.

    can anybody verify, and maybe go into more depth as to why/how they are better?

    im about to build my rear wheel up, so i need to know before i just say **** it and use the straight spokes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thetank View Post
    any way you can prove this or did you pull this out of your @$$?

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    along with the differences in pinned/bonded...

    Velocity Deep V:
    -currently comes in about 46 colors/patterns
    -no lip between brake surface and "V"
    -heavy (~590g)
    -can easily be bought built up or as rims
    -more $$$

    Weinmann Deep V:
    -currently comes in about 6 colors
    -lip between brake surface and "V" regardless of machined or not
    -heavier (~700g)
    -hard to find just the rims, or the rim laced to anything but a formula, etc
    -less $$$

    i would say those are the main differences. if you want to buy a pre-built wheel to an alright hub in a basic color (red, blue, yellow, black, white, green) and you don't care about the little lip on the dp18, go with that, save yourself some money.

    but if you want to build your own wheelset, or want nicer hubs, or want a crazy color, then as long as that's worth the extra money, go with velocity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oneangrytoast View Post
    the pro wheel builder at my LBS doesnt know **** about fixed, and swears that id be an ******* for using anything but straight spokes. i have, however, done some homework, and have read that the double butter are stronger.

    can anybody verify, and maybe go into more depth as to why/how they are better?

    im about to build my rear wheel up, so i need to know before i just say **** it and use the straight spokes.
    double butted spokes aren't stronger, they are lighter. not that they are any weaker, same strength, less weight
    before posting, a "noob" should always ask themselves "could this have been answered by first visiting Sheldon Brown

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    Quote Originally Posted by dddave View Post
    is this a joke?
    hence the winking dude...
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    lol at me typing "double butter". obv i meant butted. i guess i was trying to ask about durability, not strength.

    i.e. the spoke flex takes the pressure off the wheel, prevents cracking of wheel. im pretty sure anyone would rather bust a spoke than crack a wheel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thetank View Post
    any way you can prove this or did you pull this out of your @$$?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dddave View Post
    is this a joke?
    is this a joke?

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