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Old 04-21-09, 02:51 PM
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KILO WT at last - comment would be great

I have posted on this bike several times and since it was suggested by several members and since I got lots of other input on it from BF posters -- here is picture of sample [production coming in July / Aug]







Tires are 32c - tons of extra room for wider too; plus racks and fenders
Lots of stuff on this bike I really like and in addition it looks good with my hat

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another new model? you guys can't keep the bikes you have now in stock.
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Ditch the calipers for cantis. IRO just axed the Rob Roy, there should be a market.
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Originally Posted by Cynikal
Ditch the calipers for cantis. IRO just axed the Rob Roy, there should be a market.

Yes, yes yes......yes.
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yea, a bike meant for wide tires with no canti mounts? thats lameee. do it.
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Originally Posted by howl
another new model? you guys can't keep the bikes you have now in stock.
I know - it has been a problem
especially with Kilo TT

But we have really got a lot of extra Kilo TT for spring / summer
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Originally Posted by Cynikal
Ditch the calipers for cantis. IRO just axed the Rob Roy, there should be a market.
Fantom Cross Uno has cantis and has sold like crazy
New one on the way now has drop bar levers and should sell even better
I like that bike too
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ohgod more BD shilling
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A couple photos of the actual clearance would be helpful, if you can do that.
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Originally Posted by Cy Trivialities
yea, a bike meant for wide tires with no canti mounts? thats lameee. do it.

The R556 works great with wide tires and with fenders
But I see what you mean - that is why we have the Fantom Uno - which does have cantisI thought this bike would also fill a niche - without being too close to the Fantom Uno
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Originally Posted by chase.
A couple photos of the actual clearance would be helpful, if you can do that.
I put 52 clear in frame and fork






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Also put lots of braze-ons and eyelets on fork

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Originally Posted by RichinPeoria
ohgod more BD shilling
They're not pretending not to be associated with BD; therefore, it's not shilling.
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Originally Posted by Scratcher33
They're not pretending not to be associated with BD; therefore, it's not shilling.
Correct...thanks for that

This would be another BD infomercial (likely without payment to BF ?)

"ohgod another BD infomercial"
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Originally Posted by bikesdirect_com
The R556 works great with wide tires and with fenders
But I see what you mean - that is why we have the Fantom Uno - which does have cantisI thought this bike would also fill a niche - without being too close to the Fantom Uno
If they're so simliar, then why spend the energy and money producing this bike when most people want a more affordable version of a Bianchi Concept or Fuji Track Pro?

There are too many entry-level bikes that are similar. Excuse me, I think I'm just getting frustrated waiting.

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Since I shoved a 7 speed IGH wheel into the ass end of my Messenger rendering it no longer fixed or even SS I'm soon to be in the market for a replacement fixed gear. I was leaning heavily toward the Uno so I could run larger tires but this looks like it could also be a winner.

My opinions basedd on what I'm seeing:

Are those rack mounting screws I see in the middle of the fork blades?! If they are, that feature = epic win!

I agree with those who have said cantis > calipers but as long as the clearance is there for tires/fenders I can overlook it.

High flange hubs are really nice looking. Usually I only like the big flanges in chrome but the black/white color scheme makes these work just fine.

Fork w/ lugged crown = win.

The only things I might add would be a second set of bottle mounts on the seat tube since this bike seems to be more practial and less tarck oriented.

Overall I like it.
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looks great! this may take a bite out of steamroller sales.
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Originally Posted by ZiP0082
looks great! this may take a bite out of steamroller sales.
I'm with you on this one, and white just looks so nice too. I may have to wait till july to get my new bike and this might be it. Also I happen to like the caliper brakes over cantis since they already have the cross-uno if you're really looking for a cross bike and cantis can be a pain to set up properly compared to calipers. Good job
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Originally Posted by HandsomeRyan
Since I shoved a 7 speed IGH wheel into the ass end of my Messenger rendering it no longer fixed or even SS I'm soon to be in the market for a replacement fixed gear. I was leaning heavily toward the Uno so I could run larger tires but this looks like it could also be a winner.

My opinions basedd on what I'm seeing:

Are those rack mounting screws I see in the middle of the fork blades?! If they are, that feature = epic win!

I agree with those who have said cantis > calipers but as long as the clearance is there for tires/fenders I can overlook it.

High flange hubs are really nice looking. Usually I only like the big flanges in chrome but the black/white color scheme makes these work just fine.

Fork w/ lugged crown = win.

The only things I might add would be a second set of bottle mounts on the seat tube since this bike seems to be more practial and less tarck oriented.

Overall I like it.
Thanks

Well spotted on 2nd h2o bosses
I had alreay ask factory to add on ST

Hubs are very nice with precision bearing, but you kinda need to see them to appreciate
I think customes will love these wheels

Brakes - I thought that some buyers will want to run this bike fixed with no brakes or fixed with front only
so the R556 works as their is more and you can take them off without leaving canti bosses

Fork does have frt rack brazeons and a nice investment chrown

thanks again
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Originally Posted by RichinPeoria
ohgod more BD shilling
what is it with you and calling out the shilling in this place? You're like the boy that cried "SHILL" Get a hobby already!
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Originally Posted by dougland89
still producing the normal and pro though right? ...
Oh yea
Kilo TT in the water now
a bunch more in bike and frame shipping in May
Kilo TT Pro shipping in June

Asking factory to book space for the next year so I can stop running out of these two TT models
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Looks nice, a nice practical bike when compared to the more track style kilo tt and pro. As stated before, looks like those looking for a steamroller will now have something to shop it against.

also, noticed that you dropped the "WTF" name.
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This looks really nice, and corrects a couple of gripes that I had about the TT (namely, lack of room for fenders with anything bigger than 23cs). How's this going to be different from the Jury, though?
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Ooh I like it. I want to know more. I'd really like to know what these bikes weigh in at (this and the Dawes SST-AL). I don't expect them to be featherweights but I do expect less than my geared bikes (which aren't top dollar race bikes either).

Before I bought my cross bike (a 2007 Norco CCX1 which I got for an absolute steal and love) I almost pulled the trigger on a Dawes SST-AL which looks to have good tire clearance as well and the same rims as this and seemed to be the best value since it had better wheels and good brakes though I would have dumped the top levers for proper hooded levers at additional cost (which was true of most options). Though the rack screws on the seatstays confused me since there where no eyelets on the dropouts (excuse me...track ends).

I may be tempted to get one depending on the price. It's a tough call between this, the Fantom Cross Uno, and the Dawes SST-AL. A Fantom Cross Uno with proper brake levers and a better wheelset would be a clear winner thanks to the higher bottom bracket of a cross bike (pedal strike sucks).

Though I got to be honest a 29er or 650B MTB is really calling to me some times as I begin to find the limits of my Hardrock.
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Originally Posted by Grivooga
Though I got to be honest a 29er or 650B MTB is really calling to me some times as I begin to find the limits of my Hardrock.
Yes, this! Please make a steel 650B hardtail mountain bike. There isn't much available right now. If you guys made something around the $600-800 range, it'd sell like freaking hotcakes.
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Great job Mike, the bike looks great and is versatile, thanks for listening to the forum.
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