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Old 04-25-09, 02:47 AM
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thats actually a fairly old article.
but im game...

bianchi pista - taiwan
fuji track pro - taiwan
cinelli vigorelli - taiwan
pake - taiwan
Cannondale sr300 - us
iro mark v - taiwan
se lager - taiwan
cannondale r600 - us
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Mostly English or NZ made:
The Humber, Norman, Robin Hood, Mercian, Bickerton, BSA/Royal Duke? all are English bikes.
The Healing, Raleigh 20s, one recumbent made in NZ.
The Burco in the Netherlands.
The Empires and the three pre1930s racing bikes, um either English or NZ, I'm not sure which.
The Morrison, Dahon, Aomesi, Oryx and the titanium recumbent in either Taiwan or mainland China.
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Originally Posted by 1geargirl
I thought Trek's were made in USA--Waterloo, Wisconsin and Whitewater, WI especially back in the 80's...... maybe now that has changed according to the link but I would think back then it was the USA.
The 80s vintage 400 series frames were made in Japan and shipped (unpainted) to Waterloo for painting and assembly. 500 and 600 series frames used Japanese built fork and rear triangle assemblies, but the main frame was built in Waterloo. 700 series and higher were fully built in Waterloo.
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Originally Posted by LupinIII
i thought that too, but the 460 was the entry level crit frame or something. it has the serial number on the seat tube instead of the bottom bracket, which according to vintagetrek means it was a japanese outsourced frame.

the chainstays seatstays and fork aren't anything great (i****awa 022 or something) and the rest is tange double butted, but regardless the bike is a good amount lighter than my flatmate's clockwork
Ishiwata tubing is fine tubing; the 022 set was double-butted chrome-moly with identical specs to Columbus SL tubing. It is still available under the 'Kaisei' name.
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Originally Posted by tmh657
That is quite the science experiment...
I started cleaning it up a bit:




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Cannondale: Made in US
SE Lager: tawian.
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I know where all mine were made:

Planet Earth.

Why discriminate?
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Originally Posted by atlascomplete
I know where all mine were made:

Planet Earth.

Why discriminate?
One love, right?
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That's it, next bike I buy is a Circle A. Built from the ground up in the USA by 1 person.
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Originally Posted by JohnDThompson
Ishiwata tubing is fine tubing; the 022 set was double-butted chrome-moly with identical specs to Columbus SL tubing. It is still available under the 'Kaisei' name.
my bad, there's no ishiwata tubing on my bike (dunno where i pulled that from, maybe a different frame i was looking at)

tange 1000 for the main triangle, tange hiten for stays. still the bike is surprisingly light built up
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Old 04-26-09, 10:18 AM
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Serotta Frame: Saratoga Springs, New York
Renyolds Fork: Utah I think, has designed and manufactured in USA decal

Steelman Frame: Redwood City, CA
Fastboy Cycles Fork: NYC, NY

I'm sure my components are from pretty much everywhere. And, I purchased both frames well used, so I can't even take credit for paying those builders directly.
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Uh,

Miele - Canada or Italy. The bike has an Italian BB, but the company was out of either Toronto or Mississauga, so it could go either way. I can't imagine why a North American manufacturer would use Italian threading.
Marinoni - Canada (Quebec)
Cannondale - USA (Bedford, PA)
Kona Major Jake - Taiwan?
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Old 04-26-09, 09:03 PM
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my mid 90's torelli is a product of italy. it says so anyway. and it has some delicious lug work.
my schwinn is a chicago made schwinn.
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I like to ride my bikes.
Not concern myself with where they came from.
(Slave labor exempted, of course)

People in Taiwan gotta eat too, right?
Remember back when a lot of manufacturing was done in the U.S.? I am sure that we probably shipped a few items abroad as well......
Why pick nits?
A quality product is a quality product.

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Old 04-26-09, 10:25 PM
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My Raleighs were built in the UK, the Peugeots are French made versions, I have several high end Japanese hand builts, several Canadian made CCM's, my mtb's are Canadian and U.S. hand built models (Rocky Mountain and a vintage Joe Murray Kona) and my daughter's Raleigh Saffron is Italian made.

There is nothing here from Taiwan or China yet only because I haven't bought a new bike in several decades and simply prefer classic / vintage frames.

My Trek hybrid is an American made model as opposed to "designed in America" model but I think that just about all the newer low to mid range Trek bikes are outsourced and only their highest end models are still being hand built in the U.S.

I have had several vintage Treks (US made) pass through my hands and the craftsmanship has been superb... if they had only fit me I would still have them.

I have nothing against Taiwanese and Chinese frames from a build / quality perspective but would like to see more general production happen in North America.
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Old 04-26-09, 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnDThompson
Ishiwata tubing is fine tubing; the 022 set was double-butted chrome-moly with identical specs to Columbus SL tubing. It is still available under the 'Kaisei' name.
Ishiwata tubing is exemplary and comes in quite a number of grades... my Kuwaharas are triple and quad butted Ishiwata frame sets and were built at Kuwahara's peak of lugged frame construction.

I would not hesitate to have a bike built with this tubing.
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John... it looks like you are going with a bolted seat stay and quite the retro build with some slacker frame angles.

You should start a build thread so we can watch the progression of this bike,
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Originally Posted by Sixty Fiver
John... it looks like you are going with a bolted seat stay and quite the retro build with some slacker frame angles.

You should start a build thread so we can watch the progression of this bike,
It's Reynolds 531 butted tubing; not all that slack -- 73.5deg head angle and 73.0deg seat angle.

Not sure why the background grid is so goofy in this (it's fine on-screen), but here's a plot of the frame:

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