khaki green is awesome
The new ones coming in the first week of June are black, which replaces the white. I'm going to nab one of them, I think. They're keeping the turquoise, which I think is a good color. Shows worse than it is on their site, though.
Damn, this thread is just confusing me more rather than helping me choose! Are the decals on the Rush removable?
Lightning SE (assuming same geo as old lightning):
I did the calculations but honestly the numbers don't mean much to me. Furthermore I might have done them wrong. Anyone want to give it a shot just for the hell of it? And for TT, what is the rake of the fork on your Rush?
The Rush looks like a fun bike, though, and I'd love to have one. I like that it still has the 1" steerer that I can put a quill stem on for the retro look. And the color is nice. Only thing that keeps me from getting a bike like that (again) is: No velodrome.
BTW, I hadn't looked at the Lightning too much, but it seems like there is some difference between the Lightning geo and Classic/Special geo.
I believe the Lightning geo is slightly more aggressive than the classic.
So I am curious how the Rush would feel with a larger rake fork. I didn't think this decision would be this tough.
I would say it's not a great idea messing with the geo yourself. Frames and forks are made to work with each other. Tweaking something in one spot will surely affect others. Not saying it's not something you can't do, but hope you know what you're doing.
Okay, I'm seriously considering a Wabi. Can anyone update this thread a bit? It's just over a year old and I would love to hear from folks that've purchased a Wabi in that time. I was thinking Kilo TT, but seems if I save up a bit more the Wabi is the way to go.
I'm new to fixed riding. I have a Wabi Lightning scandium frame 650 wheels. It is 16 lbs with pedals and bottle cage, drop bars and front and rear brakes. The really small scandium frame is stiff yet I find it comfortable. I did 80 miles Saturday with 3100' of elevation. The scandium frame is no longer available. The Classic is the best buy. I would probably buy the Special which is lugged if I didn't have the scandium option. Customer service from the owner Richard is first rate. I haven't read any negative comments about Wabi.
Got my Wabi Classic in the spring. I have about 800 miles on it so far and I am pleased with it. Perfect fixed gear bike for someone looking to ride on the road. I use if for mostly 20-40 mile rides with between 500-1500 feet of climbing.
Its just a pleasure to ride, comfortable and fun, light and responsive at 18#. The wheelset is awesome, relatively light and very sturdy. I am 200# and the roads around here can be bumpy and potholed. The wheels have held up well and required no adjustment so far. Customer service is fantastic. You can call or email Richard at Wabi and he will work with you to get the bike set up to suit your needs. I wasn't sure what stem size was right for me and he reassured me that he would swap stems for me until I was satisfied that I was well fit.
My only serious complaint would be the tires. The stock Kendas felt like I was riding a big wheel. Change those right out. I ordered it with a 110mm stem and it seems a little flexy, but not enough for me to change it right out.
This is my first fixed-gear bike so I don't have any reference for comparison but I have no regrets and would buy another one in a flash.
I ended up getting the Wabi last year and have been enjoying it. I have sold all of my other fixed roadies (Steamroller, Pista Concept). I run it fixed and have done several centuries+ on it. Comfort and geo are spot on. There is some toe overlap (55cm), but not an issue in real-world riding that doesn't involve barspins and highschool girls. Customer service was excellent as Richard answered my emails even on Sundays. Components are great for the price and you can really ride 100% stock for many miles. Can't say that for most complete bikes in this price range. Even the wheelset is spectacular.
One regret is that I wish I would have gone for a Special. That is a good-looking bike.
Thanks for the feedback @bowzette, @jerseyJim, and @palu.
@bowzetteBased, I'm new to fixed riding, or at least I will be when I get a bike. I mountain biked back in the day, but want a commuter for work and exercise. Glad to hear you like the Lightning.
@jerseyJim, I have no clue what stem size I'll need. Glad to hear Richard is so easy to work with.
@palu great info. I may have to get a Special then. It will just delay my purchase a bit
I suggest you talk with Richard. The Classic will take very wide tires and has eyelets for fenders and rack. I'm not sure about the Special. The Classic may be a better commuter choice. Richard will give you good advice.