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Old 06-02-09, 07:07 PM   #1
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City Tires

I know it's been asked. I've searched and read a ton of older posts, but decided to start a new thread to ask the questions that I want to ask and to see if opinions have changed.

I live in Seattle and use my SS to classes and maybe ride 5-20 miles/day to get to parks/beaches/etc. I'm always on the street, sidewalk, or a paved trail. Currently, I have some 23mm Specialized Tri-Sport slicks up front and 32mm Bontrager Jones CX grippys in the back. I'm thinking of running 23's up front and 25's in the back.

I'm looking for tires that're pretty durable but more importantly handle well and are light.

From what I can gather from older posts, the most recommend tires are (in no particular order):

1) Continental Gatorskins
2) Maxxis Re-fuse
3) Michelin Krylon Carbon
4) Rubino Pros
5) Vittoria Randonneurs

Armadillos were suggested by some, but completely negged by others, so I've disregarded those.

I know that the Gatorskins and Re-fuses are extremely durable, but do they handle well? Also, from what I've read, they're pretty heavy. Are there any tires that sacrifice some durability for better handling and lighter weight?

I'm not trying to ask for the impossibly light, awesome handling tire that never gives flats, but I guess tires that'll let me zoom zoom and are reliable enough (I wouldn't mind a flat every once in a while).

Also, do you think 23 front/25 back is worth it for some control or is 23 front/23 back fine?
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Old 06-02-09, 09:06 PM   #2
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what price range are all those you listed?
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I ran rubino's in 23 front and rear for awhile and they handled well and were pretty light. I'm running panaracer tservs now because I needed something more durable. The rubino's definitely rolled and handled better but I really think I'm going to stick with these for awhile. The rubino's didn't hold up very long to skidding and nyc streets.
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i have a rubino pro on the front and a lithion on the rear. it seems the rubino is more durable, i've flatted less with it

there's probably better out there though.
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what price range are all those you listed?
They're all around $30-40/tire.

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I ran rubino's in 23 front and rear for awhile and they handled well and were pretty light. I'm running panaracer tservs now because I needed something more durable. The rubino's definitely rolled and handled better but I really think I'm going to stick with these for awhile. The rubino's didn't hold up very long to skidding and nyc streets.
So one more for Rubinos? I don't really plan on skidding, if that makes a difference.
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Old 06-02-09, 11:40 PM   #6
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Does anyone have any experience with Halo Twin Rail Courier Tires?

http://www.bikeradar.com/gear/catego...tyres-09-34099
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Old 06-02-09, 11:54 PM   #7
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I didn't like the Gatorskins - a little too stiff. I just mounted some Krylions ($36 at probikekit.com). They seem like good tires. I've got the Michelin Pro 2 Race on my fast bike and wanted something for around town with some flat protection. They're slick though, so not as versatile as some of those you listed with thread, but if you're always on pavement ....

I'd go with the 25mm personally. The Krylions 25's are a lot smaller than Pro 2 Race 25's. But with the 23's you do get color options.
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Yeah, traction really isn't too big of an issue for me and as far as durability goes, I haven't really seen anything around where I ride (broken glass, metal shards, etc.) that would make me want to emphasize flat-proof tires.

I'm even considering Michelin Pro2s. Like I said, I'm willing to sacrifice durability for speed/handling, but not to the extent of picking up TT tires. Does a fine medium exist?
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Take the Randos and the Gatorskins off the list if you want a light tire. Both of those are heavy, but very flat resistant. I run 28mm versions of both (Rando-Cross, actually) on 2 of my bikes. They're great tires, and I've done thousands of miles without a flat, over chip seal, unpaved hardpack gravel, chuck holed bad roads, etc.
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Yeah, they do seem sorta like overkill for what I want to do w/ my bike. Alright, so that leaves:

1) Maxxis Re-fuse
2) Michelin Krylon Carbon
3) Rubino Pros

And also I've heard a lot about Vredestein Fortezzas...

At the moment, I think it's a toss up between the Fortezzas and Rubino Pros. Slightly leaning towards the Rubinos. Do they really wear as fast as some people say even if I'm not skidding around?
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i don't mind that the randos are a heavier tire...they are super tough and i ride through trails and off of curbs and such, they make my steamroller more steamrollerish
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i don't mind that the randos are a heavier tire...they are super tough and i ride through trails and off of curbs and such, they make my steamroller more steamrollerish
I use my bikes for commuting and long distance riding, so I'm not concerned with some extra weight on the tires to keep from getting flats over a 300k course.
But since the OP wants something lighter weight, neither the Rando nor the Gatorskin really fits the bill.
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I say go for Rubino Pros. Ive had mine for an extremely long time and I skid, but my gear ratio allows me to have 17 skid patches, so there you go. And if you're not skidding, then it's not going to matter anyway.

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I use my bikes for commuting and long distance riding, so I'm not concerned with some extra weight on the tires to keep from getting flats over a 300k course.
But since the OP wants something lighter weight, neither the Rando nor the Gatorskin really fits the bill.
true...i was just adding my 2 cents on the randos
the tires were hard to install so i am glad i don't have to fuss with them

most of my riding is commuting and some days i ride some light trails as part of my commute so it's super fun to be able to ride it all

i rode the zaffiros last summer and those were pretty great...i remember seeing lots of little nicks in the rubber but i don't recall many flats, maybe 2 and one of them was a pincher
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i just got some diamonte prolights, and i was wondering if anyone had experience with them. they arent for city duty, but by virtue of where i live, they are going to go through some rough stuff. i imagine they arent top notch protection, but are they outright bad?
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I realized that what I'm asking for was more of a durable road tire. I ended up reading some older stuff in the road cycling forums and found that Michelin Krylion Carbons were very, very highly recommended as durable and fast tires, so I went with those. They're pretty light, too, weighing in at 220g per 23cm tire.

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I say go for Rubino Pros. Ive had mine for an extremely long time and I skid, but my gear ratio allows me to have 17 skid patches, so there you go. And if you're not skidding, then it's not going to matter anyway.

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Econ final tomorrow, so I won't be able to make it. Finals are over next week and I'm going down to the couv for a week or so, but I'll be back up for the rest of the summer. We can prolly meet up then
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I presently ride with a Conti 4 Seasons in front and a Conti Gatorskin in back.

With this combination I have never had a flat, nor a cut of any significance.

This combo also handles better and weighs less than anything else that has any durability and flat resistance, with the exception of Schwalbe Ultremos.

I have in the past ridden with Ultremos front and back.

No flats.

However, the rear tire gets a lot of cuts.

Part of the cuts in the rear may come from the fact that the Ultremo's absence of tread makes cuts more evident.

In any event, the Ultermo's handle better than any other tire I have ridden, and noticeably better than the Contis (which in the combination described handle very well).

I easily get 3,000 miles on the front Ultremo and 2,000 on the rear.

I have changed the rear tire earlier than the front because the cuts began to make me nervous.

I have new frame in the making, and I have ordered the new Ultremo R for the front and the Ultremo DD for the rear.

Reportedly, the Ultremo DD handles road hazards better than the original Ultremo.
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