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Old 06-02-09, 08:09 PM   #1
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Track drops on the street ... worst ever?

Thought I would share a useless post with the forum tonight.

Got new grips for my track bars this weekend. I decided to put the bars on my bike today and do my normal ride. It was pretty terrible. The drops are so very very useless with a packed messenger bag on (something I had never really thought about before seeing as how I never had the combo of bags and drops before).

The saddle to bar drop certainly doesn't help. (btw I normally ride bull horns which I love).

So now I think track bars on the street are even crazier then I had imagined. I am just stunned that people ride this set up everyday.



Here is the set up btw. /end post
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Old 06-02-09, 08:14 PM   #2
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i like the looks of your bike a lot. I agree about track drops. I can't understand how it is comfortable, but whatever.
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Old 06-02-09, 08:18 PM   #3
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track drops on the street is just asking to be as uncomfortable as possible. i rode my friends for 1/2 a mile and i couldnt take it anymore. i only found 1 decent hand position but that still sucked
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Old 06-02-09, 08:25 PM   #4
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I tried switching between hands pronated near the stem and supinated on the curves of the drops both at the top of the cure and down a bit. All three were so so but not the best. Moving the hands from the drops to the top curved section seems like it could be dangerous as the most likely progression seems like hand forward on the drops to a supinated hand on the top which means twisting the hand while moving it off the bar. Tonight I switch my bars back (on a side note my bullhorns are also lighter which is a nice bonus).

Maybe I will put on some road drops for comparison too... or maybe even my mtb risers
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Old 06-02-09, 08:37 PM   #5
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i thought about buying track drops until i started reading about how uncomfortable they were.

I loved road drops though, maybe I shouldn't have sold them to pay the bills. I ride bullhorns now.
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Nice Bareknuckle, but good god man. You want to ride your bike on the road?..go look at a road bike.

Flip your stem or get one without a ridiculus angle, remove some of those spacers, install some road drops, add hooded brake levers (with brakes[s]), and angle your saddle downward a few degrees from its present position.

Serously, when will you people learn?
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Old 06-02-09, 09:01 PM   #7
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when i first got my motobecane it had drops on them, but i hated them so much that i always rode with my hands on top near the stem. i finally got tired of them so i flipped them upside down and cut them in half to make bullhorns. now i love them.
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There's someone around here with some track drops on his bike I see almost every day. I've never seen him use the drops though, always has his hands on the top where he refuses to put grips.
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I love how drops look but they suck to ride with.Or maybe I just suck at riding with them, either way, really uncomfortable. I switched to bullhorns on my IRO after a week of riding with the drops and felt so much better. I also found it hard to skid with drops. Just me though.
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Serously, when will you people learn?
Learn what?
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Ride more....then go ride more. You'll eventually understand.
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it takes some getting used to... i honestly prefer riding on chopped risers for comfort... yet i still ride my drops cuz i feel like a total ****** with my risers on my bike hahaha it's a preference thing i guess


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Old 06-02-09, 09:21 PM   #13
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my bike came with track bars and i dont find it comfortable at all. i miss my road bars
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Nice Bareknuckle, but good god man. You want to ride your bike on the road?..go look at a road bike.

Flip your stem or get one without a ridiculus angle, remove some of those spacers, install some road drops, add hooded brake levers (with brakes[s]), and angle your saddle downward a few degrees from its present position.

Serously, when will you people learn?
My bike was actually fit to be used with my bullhorns. With them on the bike fits great.

I love the angle of my stem. I dislike the look of raised stems and the spacers are there to allow me use that angle of stem so that it still fits well. The amount of spacers I currently have is well within the limit of normality when fitting a bike. I have been riding this particular bike since the beginning of last summer with no problems. The saddle fits great at the angle it currently is and I believe most saddles should be titled a *tiny* bit up to position the rider correctly and to prevent the rider from sliding forward. Anywho.. I still appreciate the input and know you make great posts but hope you don't mind if I don't take your suggestions.

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I could have also used a different headset configuration to change the amount of spacers needed.

But I preferred the lower profile look purely for ascetics reasons.

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Whatever. To each his own I guess. I love my track drops and ride them every day. I can get 3 positions and I've never had too much had discomfort on long rides. I just haven't find road bars or bullhorns that I like more. Sometimes I put on some flat bars but they always seem to come off after a week.
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Old 06-02-09, 09:43 PM   #16
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Ride more....then go ride more. You'll eventually understand.
Jesus. You have no idea how much I ride.
If you cant be nice please be quiet.

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Old 06-02-09, 09:46 PM   #17
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I can't speak for anyone else, but I use the actual dropped part of the drop bars for climbing, sprinting, and heading upwind. I never had any trouble keeping my backpack on, but if I understand correctly, messenger bags ride a lot higher.

The main advantage of the drops is that it gives you something to pull from when you need more power. I don't see any way to do this on any other types of bars, but I've never tried bullhorns.

As for the rest of my ride, I don't see how riding on the tops is any different than most other kinds, except risers, but I'll be damned if I'm going to ruin a perfectly nice bike with risers.
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i got track drops for a little fun, and theyve grown on me a bit. however, road drops and hoods have no peer.
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whatever. To each his own i guess. I love my track drops and ride them every day. I can get 3 positions and i've never had too much had discomfort on long rides. I just haven't find road bars or bullhorns that i like more. Sometimes i put on some flat bars but they always seem to come off after a week.
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I'll be damned if I'm going to ruin a perfectly nice bike with risers.
Oh crap, my bike is ruined. I wish that you had posted this before I decided on my own that I liked them.
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I should add, I guess, that I was riding with full fingered fox gloves on while using this setup. I have no idea about how it would feel without them.
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road drops with hoods are the cat's pajamas, but i have 2 road bikes with that setup and wanted something different. local shop had a sale and i bought some nitto b123's. I prefer them to the hoodless road drops i had before, i actually find them pretty nice. the steel takes the little bit of vibration in the road that was left out. paired with cinelli gel tape, with cinelli cork on top makes it very nice to ride.

mind you my commute is only ~2.5 miles each way, but some people are saying discomfort in half a mile... i find that hard to believe, I find them to be very comfortable.

i have some bullhorns and a spare stem, maybe i'll throw those on to see what that feels like. I don't get bullhorns though when a similar position seems to be made with the hoods and road drop combo.
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I have Deda pista bars on my GT and they are pretty comfy. I love being in the drops on them but it is kind of suicidal in traffic, so I don't do it too often.
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Lupin- I also think that road drops w/ hoods are the comfiest bar combo of all, but I'll tell you why people (or I, at least) run bullhorns: same feeling as drops w/ hoods but cheaper b/c you don't have to buy the hoods. For 20 bucks you can get a set of horns from Ben's that emulates the feeling of hoods w/o having to buy drops AND hooods. Not to mention, IMO, they look pretty cool.
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Oh crap, my bike is ruined. I wish that you had posted this before I decided on my own that I liked them.

Sorry. You should understand, though, that when someone expresses distaste for something, especially when that distaste is based on someone's personal sense of aesthetics, it doesn't necessarily mean that person thinks others should feel the same way.

I hate the way risers look. I think it makes a nice, grownup road/track bike look like an overgrown bmx bike. What that means for you and your bike, however, should be more or less unimportant. Don't be so goddamned sensitive.

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