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Old 06-02-09, 09:43 PM   #1
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A deal or rip off?

"velocity deep v wlectric rear wheel with flip flop... no frewheel both sides r fixied
with tire 700x23 its electric blue"

"And im asking 90 with tube n tire. Its only ben used once"

I'm gonna go check it out but, in your opinion, is it worth taking a look? This is all I need to complete my first build except for the cog(s), lockring and chain.
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Old 06-02-09, 10:00 PM   #2
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Do it. Definently a good deal.
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Old 06-02-09, 10:06 PM   #3
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probably stolen. but whatever.

check under tire to see if the owner put their name there. just sayin.
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Old 06-02-09, 11:41 PM   #4
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aw crap, that guy is pretty far from me. And judging by the area (yeah I'm being an *******) it may be stolen
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Old 06-03-09, 12:05 AM   #5
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aw crap, that guy is pretty far from me. And judging by the area (yeah I'm being an *******) it may be stolen
Sounds too knowledgeable to be stolen. If it were stolen, it would look like this:

"Hi guys I have a bike wheel. It's blue and has a tire already on it."
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Old 06-03-09, 02:24 AM   #6
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should make sure the threads aren't stripped.
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"velocity deep v wlectric rear wheel with flip flop... no frewheel both sides r fixied
with tire 700x23 its electric blue"
so is it flip flop or fixed/fixed?
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Old 06-03-09, 02:45 AM   #8
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so is it flip flop or fixed/fixed?
A double fixed is a flip/flop. As long as there are threads on both sides, that's what counts.
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oh snap~ icic i thought flip flop always refers to fixed/free~
it just means thread on both sidessss
there are hubs with only 1 thread? nowaiiiiii~

sry~ carry on
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oh snap~ icic i thought flip flop always refers to fixed/free~
it just means thread on both sidessss
there are hubs with only 1 thread? nowaiiiiii~

sry~ carry on
Even if it's threaded for fixed/fixed you can still run a freewheel on one (or both) sides! Freewheel threading is the same as the fixed cog theading, you just don't use the [smaller] lock ring threads if running a freewheel on a fixed threaded hub.

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A double fixed is a flip/flop. As long as there are threads on both sides, that's what counts.
a flip flop isn't always double fixed though. the common thing companies sell is a fixed/free combo and say it's a flip flop.

if you engage a freewheel on a fixed side there's the argument there's not enough threading to support the pressure, but it can still be done
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That rumour is perpetuated, but if there is enough thread to support a fixed cog why would these threads be insuffcient for a freewheel?

Avoid perpetuating such nonsense
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oh snap~ icic i thought flip flop always refers to fixed/free~
it just means thread on both sidessss
there are hubs with only 1 thread? nowaiiiiii~

sry~ carry on
we need more consistent naming
Flip/flop=fixed/free
Flip/Flip=Fixed/Fixed
Flop/Flop=Free/Free

Anyone on board?
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we need more consistent naming
Flip/flop=fixed/free
Flip/Flip=Fixed/Fixed
Flop/Flop=Free/Free

Anyone on board?
Why?
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i believe he was joking, not being serious.
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In Conclusion:

Flip flop just means you can turn the wheel around and it'll still work~ i guess it works in cases where you want different cog ratios, that's why they invented flip flop, not for purposes of fixed/free (but it just conveniently works for those)
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flip flop==john kerry's election. haha
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a flip flop isn't always double fixed though. the common thing companies sell is a fixed/free combo and say it's a flip flop.

if you engage a freewheel on a fixed side there's the argument there's not enough threading to support the pressure, but it can still be done
for sure. I just wanted to clarify for mucky what defines a flip/flop, in this case a double fixed hub. The most common flip/flop is the fixed/free variety though. fwiw, I threw a freewheel on a double fixed on one of my bikes, and it rides fine after a year & a half. I don't take it out for more than 15 miles a week, but I've never had any issues with the freewheel.
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flip flop==john kerry's election. haha
flip flop==george bush's take on WMD's. haha
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if you engage a freewheel on a fixed side there's the argument there's not enough threading to support the pressure, but it can still be done
This is absolutely and unequivocally incorrect.
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Even if it's threaded for fixed/fixed you can still run a freewheel on one (or both) sides! Freewheel threading is the same as the fixed cog theading, you just don't use the [smaller] lock ring threads if running a freewheel on a fixed threaded hub.

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This is absolutely and unequivocally incorrect.
saying that its absolutely and unequivocally incorrect is absolutely and unequivocally incorrect.
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saying that its absolutely and unequivocally incorrect is absolutely and unequivocally incorrect.
Would you like to cite some evidence to back up your claim that I'm wrong? I can't find a single instance of catastrophic failure related directly to using a freewheel on a fixed hub and there are many people who have ridden this setup without problem.

A freewheel does not put any more stress on the threads than a fixed cog does. The threads of a hub convert the rotational force applied to a fixed cog or freewheel into a lateral force applied toward the center of the hub as it is tightened on the threads. The "extra" threads that "stick out" over the reverse lock ring threads when using a freewheel are irrelevant since the lock ring does nothing to assist the fixed cog when spinning forward and the freewheel does not produce and force when spinning backwards/freewheeling.
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If you think putting a freewheel on the fixed side is a problem then you obviously have absolutely no ****ing real world experience working in a real bike shop, with real liability hanging over your head. In which case you should just ****ing stop talking.

There is absolutely no problem running freewheels on the fixed side of a hub. This is precisely why fixed/fixed hubs are more versatile than fixed/free hubs. **** you and **** idiotic bikeforums for their stupid advice. It's amazing people aren't dying left and right from ******** mother****ing advice.
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If you think putting a freewheel on the fixed side is a problem then you obviously have absolutely no ****ing real world experience working in a real bike shop, with real liability hanging over your head. In which case you should just ****ing stop talking.

There is absolutely no problem running freewheels on the fixed side of a hub. This is precisely why fixed/fixed hubs are more versatile than fixed/free hubs. **** you and **** idiotic bikeforums for their stupid advice. It's amazing people aren't dying left and right from ******** mother****ing advice.
Don't hold back man, let us know how you really feel.

I don't have a problem with people expressing different ideas, that is what makes the internet a great place. What bothers me is people coming in and saying "you are wrong" without explain why they think I'm wrong or they are right. [see post #22]
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