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Old 06-04-09, 03:26 PM   #1
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Bumped By a Jetta

Yesterday I picked up my first fixie, i road it just under a mile and had to put it up for the night. Today i road for about 2-3hrs the ride was excellent. since i am a noob on my new tiger of a cycle my skidding skills are minimal and next to none.
At the very end of my route today i girl driving a jetta about 22-24 in age reversed right into me and "bumped" right into me. My dodge consisted of the whole rim being unhit with only about 1/2-1 foot of the car left to dodge. I flew about a foot into the air it seemed and landed back on the wheels. the chick freaked and i told her it was okay that she needs to watch where she is going and use her mirrors. I am fine and The bike is fine except possible truing to front wheel. Is this an omen or a wake up call to a front brake?
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Yesterday I picked up my first fixie, i road it just under a mile and had to put it up for the night. Today i road for about 2-3hrs the ride was excellent. since i am a noob on my new tiger of a cycle my skidding skills are minimal and next to none.
At the very end of my route today i girl driving a jetta about 22-24 in age reversed right into me and "bumped" right into me. My dodge consisted of the whole rim being unhit with only about 1/2-1 foot of the car left to dodge. I flew about a foot into the air it seemed and landed back on the wheels. the chick freaked and i told her it was okay that she needs to watch where she is going and use her mirrors. I am fine and The bike is fine except possible truing to front wheel. Is this an omen or a wake up call to a front brake?

Yes
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Old 06-04-09, 03:29 PM   #3
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yes to both haha?
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Yesterday I picked up my first fixie, i road it just under a mile and had to put it up for the night. Today i road for about 2-3hrs the ride was excellent. since i am a noob on my new tiger of a cycle my skidding skills are minimal and next to none.
At the very end of my route today i girl driving a jetta about 22-24 in age reversed right into me and "bumped" right into me. My dodge consisted of the whole rim being unhit with only about 1/2-1 foot of the car left to dodge. I flew about a foot into the air it seemed and landed back on the wheels. the chick freaked and i told her it was okay that she needs to watch where she is going and use her mirrors. I am fine and The bike is fine except possible truing to front wheel. Is this an omen or a wake up call to a front brake?
Yes, get a front brake.
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Old 06-04-09, 03:37 PM   #6
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really, how are you no running a front brake if you can't skid? how do you stop? that seems like one hell of a bad idea.
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Old 06-04-09, 04:04 PM   #7
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Ugh, I hate drivers who do stupid **** like that.
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really, how are you no running a front brake if you can't skid? how do you stop? that seems like one hell of a bad idea.
ted shred?

But in all seriousness. Get the brake. Its more uncool to be unable to stop and then crash.
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^not a ted shred.
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it's THE NEW COOL to have a brake. you don't wanna end up like this:

"Gregg, a San Francisco State theater and stagecraft student, died when he crashed his fixed-gear bicycle just off East Cliff Drive on Jessie Street. Gregg's bike didn't have a brake and he was not wearing a helmet. Police are still investigating if he collided with or was hit by a FedEx truck seen in the area at the time of the crash."

http://scsextra.com/story.php?sid=64878
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Get a brake, i still don't understand why a lot of fixie riders seem to think its the cool thing to do to not run a brake. I'd rather be a little uncool and not get hit by a car then look cool while im getting hit by a car. Yes i know i can get hit even with a brake but regardless, no matter how you slice it going with a brake is safer.
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Old 06-04-09, 11:06 PM   #12
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Riding with a brake is way, way more fun. You're not constantly being timid, and can really let loose on the road, plus everything becomes far smoother and easier on your knees/hips.
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riding brakeless isn't as dangerous as many people say in some circumstances. but it's still a bad idea in most circumstances. also, a brake makes you ride faster.
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Riding with a brake is way, way more fun. You're not constantly being timid, and can really let loose on the road, plus everything becomes far smoother and easier on your knees/hips.
x2 - such a tired argument, but simple physics dictates that if you can stop quickly you'll spend more time going faster.
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also, she reversed, but was this in a parking lot? it's illegal to reverse in ANY roadway unless you're parking or making a three point turn when no one else is around and there are no solid lines. you can't reverse out of an intersection, you can't reverse to get back to a turn you missed- you just plain can't reverse.

if she was reversing in her lane, she needs to know this before she kills someone.

if she was reversing out of a parking spot and didn't see you (you having the right of way since she was supposed to wait until there was no traffic), then you should probably 1.) have brakes and 2.) not get yourself into situations where people can back up without you stopping in time- leave more room in parking lots and if possible don't ride through them fast enough to prevent stopping.

so did you hit the back of her car or the side?

even though it's her fault for reversing, the cops might have put you at fault as well if you don't have a brake. for your own safety, get a brake. for her safety, don't just tell her to watch where she's going but tell her why it's her fault and when she can and can't reverse, open her door, or back out of a space, or park.
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People who drive Mercedes and BMW's pay a special tax that allows them to kill one cylcist per year without penalty... the people who drive Jettas just think they've paid that special tax.

As a messenger you keep track of who seems dead set on trying to take you out and the Jetta drivers actually outnumber the SUV driving soccer moms.

P.S. Get a brake.
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with the amount of talent messengers have for keeping track of things(like which cars kill you) and thinking and doing on the fly, you'd think they'd pick a profession that allows for a longer lifespan, what with information technology and all.

oh wait, most of the messengers i've seen lately work for jimmy johns.

(totally aware of how much flak i'm gonna get for this joke post)
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Messengers are a different species... they need fresh air and an inordinate amount of adrenalin to survive.



I know quite a few guys who have tried to do other stuff and they can't get the street out of their system... I sometimes miss it like you would not believe.
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Is this an omen or a wake up call to a front brake?
Duh. I'm rarely sarcastic, but do you really need to ask? The very first time I visited this fixed gear forum, an Asian guy posted photos of his head after he went through someone's window (no, he didn't have a brake). It wasn't pretty.
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Yes. If you want to ride a bike on the street, get a brake. If you want a cool fashion accessory, find one that's less likely to kill you.
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[QUOTE=cc700;9045738]

if she was reversing in her lane, she needs to know this before she kills someone.

if she was reversing out of a parking spot and didn't see you (you having the right of way since she was supposed to wait until there was no traffic), then you should probably 1.) have brakes and 2.) not get yourself into situations where people can back up without you stopping in time- leave more room in parking lots and if possible don't ride through them fast enough to prevent stopping.

so did you hit the back of her car or the side?

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she was reversing out of a driveway,,WITHOUT LOOKING!!!



thank you everyone for your inputs. I HAVE DECIDED TO GET A FRONT BRAKE, by the end of the month ill see if im gonna switch back to a SS but the fixed has my fever going. I just want to LIVE WELL JAH!!! PS. can i cut brake line to fit it into a lever. do i need a end piece? does the lever come with one?? humble.
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most levers don't come with lines and will require a line with an end intact. best to get the cable and housing new, that way you aren't breaking the cable on a busted housing or busting your housing with a bent or broken cable.

and in that case telling her to look where she was going was probably enough of an explanation.
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riding brakeless isn't as dangerous as many people say in some circumstances. but it's still a bad idea in most circumstances. also, a brake makes you ride faster.
+1 cept I think all the cases where it could be considered a "bad idea" involve the rider doing something stupid. I feel the greatest miscalculation brakeless riders make is to underestimate their speed. When riding brakeless - and this should be obvious - you need to compensate for your greater braking distance by riding slower. Traveling the same speed as a braked cyclist, you can't stop as rapidly brakeless. But if you are going slower than they are, you can compensate for it. Having to ride slower was the main reason I didn't ride brakeless for a long time, but now I don't care as much about going fast all the time. Strange for me considering I enjoy going fast ... but I dunno.
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She didn't bump you, she cut you off and you rammed into her because you couldn't stop.
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You guys need to back off with the brakes thing.

Apparently this guy got hit by a car hard enough to make him fly a foot in the air, but he still landed on his wheels and didn't even fall.

He knows what he's doing.
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