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Old 06-10-09, 12:33 PM   #1
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Gt gutterball vs. surly steamroller

i know that these are two exact opposite style bikes with the gt being more of a true track frame woth tighter geometry and aluminum where the surly is more relaxed n steel but the is what ive narrowed it down to. i dont have a material bias as i have an aluminum road bike and my current fixed is steel and like them both but i would use it for commuting this summer about five miles each way and then im going out to college in the fall so i would bring it out to cruise around there. what do you think? im feelin the tight geomety and responsiveness of the gt but also like the verstility of the surly.
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Old 06-10-09, 04:39 PM   #2
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versatility can be a good thing in the long run
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Old 06-10-09, 04:54 PM   #3
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oh and btw either bike is going to be built usings either sram omnium or miche advanced primato cranks and miche hubs laced to deep v's if that weighs any on your opinions.
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id say surly, youll never know what youll want your bike to become in the long run, versatility is your friend
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Old 06-10-09, 05:54 PM   #5
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steamroller won't get ****ed with as much on campus. but i wouldn't leave either one out at night.
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Old 06-10-09, 06:07 PM   #6
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the gutterball looks like junk if you ask me
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Old 06-10-09, 06:17 PM   #7
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steamroller won't get ****ed with as much on campus. but i wouldn't leave either one out at night.
Yeah that's exactly what I was gunna say since the Surlys are way more common I feel like somebody would be more inclined to go for the GT but I'm really not feeling how their site says its almost roadish geometry I'd like something a little more aggresive than that. How is the geometry on them?
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Old 06-10-09, 06:18 PM   #8
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Does anyone know what the clearance for tires would be on the GT?
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go surly. I have a Jamis sputnik which has similar geometry to the steamroller but it still feels quick as hell. Not quite as twitchy as a track bike, but I've never felt like it was sluggish or anything like that. Honestly, Surly is just a much better brand, IMO, than GT. Everyone loves teh steamroller, i don't think you can go wrong w/ it.

Also, have you considered IRO? Check out the sputnik, too (I tell EVERYONE this haha).
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Surly all the way!!!! VERSATILITY!!!
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if we were comparing a Steamroller vs. GTB

it would be GTB hands down for me


but the Gutterball looks like a complete bust as far as the frame goes
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the gutterball is an awesome frame, just ride one.
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Old 06-10-09, 08:25 PM   #13
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if we were comparing a Steamroller vs. GTB

it would be GTB hands down for me


but the Gutterball looks like a complete bust as far as the frame goes
But would it be such a difference between the GTB and the Gutterball frame wise since I'm going to strip it down to the frame anyways and rebuild it with all higher end parts? And does anyone know the max tire clearance on the Gutterball? It doesnt seem like there are many around so probably not I figured maybe someone would know. And it seems like the steamroller is the more recommended bike but the paint is just so fugly. Wht goes with maroon? nothing
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it will be a big difference, but not very big.

they make the steamroller in more than just maroon. the 09's are a cream and black, they look GREAT.
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But would it be such a difference between the GTB and the Gutterball frame wise since I'm going to strip it down to the frame anyways and rebuild it with all higher end parts? And does anyone know the max tire clearance on the Gutterball? It doesnt seem like there are many around so probably not I figured maybe someone would know. And it seems like the steamroller is the more recommended bike but the paint is just so fugly. Wht goes with maroon? nothing
just get the black or cream coloured one
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surly! i love mine.
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Yeah that's exactly what I was gunna say since the Surlys are way more common I feel like somebody would be more inclined to go for the GT but I'm really not feeling how their site says its almost roadish geometry I'd like something a little more aggresive than that. How is the geometry on them?
Why not just go ride one to see what you think?
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Hrm, I kinda like that. More photos of the Gutterball guys please
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This is mine. Coming from a converted road bike, I rather like the geometry (much tighter) and didn't find it much different swapping from steel to aluminum. Cheap too, I payed $299NZD for this frame/forks/headset brand new.

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does anyone have more pics of their gutterball? or a pic of a steamroller with omniums on it? thanks, greg
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