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View Poll Results: Did you actually have the damage repaired?
Yes, I did have the damage repaired. 20 40.82%
No, I did not have the damage repaired. 29 59.18%
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Old 06-10-09, 01:23 PM   #1
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POLL: Have you ever had your damaged steel bike repaired?

This poll is on the honour* system.

*The Brit spelling makes it mean more.

Please only vote if you meet BOTH criteria:
Criteria 1) You own or have owned a steel bike.
Criteria 2) The aforementioned steel bike was damaged (Majorly or minorly dented, bent, etc...)


Please, only vote based on YOUR experience, not what you've seen or heard of happening.


The Poll Question:

Did you have that damage repaired?

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Old 06-10-09, 01:55 PM   #2
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Will you guys please bump the thread when you vote? I'd like to get a good sampling of votes.
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Old 06-10-09, 01:56 PM   #3
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Last spring I snapped the seat tube of my Benotto track frame. I got two estimates for tube repair and new paint. In the end it was better to take that money and put it towards a new frame.
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I've had minor dents from the locking up to poles, bars spinning back on the TT, or the bike falling over. None of which warranted paying for repair.
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Old 06-10-09, 01:59 PM   #5
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You don't think flying off the handle in one thread because you think everyone else is stupid for not already seeing things your way, and then starting another thread to debate a single point you made that some people had the audacity to dispute, might be just a little bit unhealthy?
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Old 06-10-09, 02:01 PM   #6
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You don't think flying off the handle in one thread because you think everyone else is stupid for not already seeing things your way, and then starting another thread to debate a single point you made that some people had the audacity to dispute, might be just a little bit unhealthy?
Hey, man. We could debate with opinions or we can debate the facts.

I made the poll to end the debate. If more people vote that they have actually had their bike repaired, then I will have obviously been proven wrong.

LET THE PEOPLE SPEAK.

Numbers don't lie
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Old 06-10-09, 02:03 PM   #7
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I will gladly admit I was wrong if proven so. I have no problem doing that.
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Old 06-10-09, 02:04 PM   #8
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You don't think flying off the handle in one thread because you think everyone else is stupid for not already seeing things your way, and then starting another thread to debate a single point you made that some people had the audacity to dispute, might be just a little bit unhealthy?
Not as scary as being stalked irl, rofl.

Anyhow, to topic ... in my experience, most of my friends who had frames they actually cared enough about to get repaired (e.g. not a beater, "nice" expensive frame, etc.), did *not* get their frames repaired because the cost of repair exceeded the cost of replacement or shipping.

Personally, the only frame I have ever damaged has been my polo beater. I generally take good care of my frames. Not so much my rims.
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I damaged my fork on my Marinoni (feel off my rook rack on a corner and bent a dropout and a fork leg). Tool it down to my local builder (Steve Rex) and he realigned it and checked for damage. If the fork had been alu or CF it would have been replaced without thought.
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Last spring I snapped the seat tube of my Benotto track frame. I got two estimates for tube repair and new paint. In the end it was better to take that money and put it towards a new frame.
Do you still have it? I'm learning framebuilding and would love a project.
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Personally, the only frame I have ever damaged has been my polo beater.
If that bike was steel, please vote.
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Old 06-10-09, 02:16 PM   #12
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Back in the 80's and 90's we used to crack our BMX frames and bend our forks all the time. It wasn't uncommon for us to go down to Mountain Goat and have our frames re-welded. I haven't cracked my latest BMX frame (Fly Tierra) but BMX frames are MUCH better than what we rode BITD.

Never cracked a steel road frame. I have pretty hard-core CX friends and family who've been competeting on their steel frames for the last 20 years (Rock Lobster FTW).

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If that bike was steel, please vote.
Done. With regard to the topic, I feel that most of the steel bikes you'll see here at least aren't worth having repaired. Both in time, effort, and money.
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Had the steerer tube break on our tandem with the result that the front wheel and fork fell off while we were riding. The bottom of the headtube impacted the pavement knocking out the lower bearing race and denting the bottom front part of the headtube. A local framebuilder put a new steerer tube on the fork and repaired the headtube for about $20. We had repainted the frame previously and still had some of the paint left over so we could easily touch up the affected parts of the fork and frame.
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Do you still have it? I'm learning framebuilding and would love a project.
Nah, I sold the fork and all the Campy parts. After much debate I put the frame out with the recycling one night.
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I think that having the word "actually" in the poll question is biased language. You should take that out, IMO.
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Old 06-10-09, 07:26 PM   #17
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Broke a frame at the chainstay/dropout on tour in Europe. Got it rewelded in a muffler shop for about 3 bux.

What about all the people who "repair" their conversions so that their new track wheels will fit correctly...coldsetting should only be done with steel, right? Either way, the poll is at 40/60 have, nowhere near the 1% of 1% you suggested in the other thread.
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twice. first, my v-brake mount broke after stupid mismatch between cantilever brake levers and v-brakes. too much leverage.
second, I moved v-brake mounts on a 26" frame to accept 700c wheels.
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Three stories:
My bike got knocked over while the front wheel was out, the fork was bent inward and the dropouts were compressed. I cold-set it back into place and wrenched open the dropouts.

My buddy Ev crashed into a bollard at 20+mph, cracked a carbon fork, bend the front end of his steel roadie inward. Fixed for a few bucks by a knowledgeable bike shop owner.

A local his a bad pothole and was sent ass over elbows - the fork on his De Rosa flexed, the front tire hit the downtube, and there were ripples everywhere. He sent it to a master builder out on Long Island, who bent it all back into place.
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I think that having the word "actually" in the poll question is biased language. You should take that out, IMO.
What's a better phrase?

"thought about having it repaired"?
"wanted to have it repaired"?
"heard that it could be repaired"?

The point of the poll to to see how many people have actually repaired steel bikes being that being repairable is touted as the one of the main selling points.

An opportunity isn't valid unless it is used.
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Just after the wreck (note bent fork- tire does not clear down tube):



I straightened the fork on an aluminum ladder, but the frame damage remained:







I rode it that way for about 6 months before acquiring another bike. The damaged bike has since been parted out.
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Just after the wreck (note bent fork- tire does not clear down tube):

I straightened the fork on an aluminum ladder, but the frame damage remained:

I rode it that way for about 6 months before acquiring another bike. The damaged bike has since been parted out.
I'm not sure if that qualifies as "repaired" but please vote how you feel.
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got a bent fork leg from being hit by a car. wasn't bent out of alignment drastically, so my lbs was able to realign it for me.

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What's a better phrase?

"thought about having it repaired"?
"wanted to have it repaired"?
"heard that it could be repaired"?

The point of the poll to to see how many people have actually repaired steel bikes being that being repairable is touted as the one of the main selling points.

An opportunity isn't valid unless it is used.
how about just "had it repaired?"
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how about just "had it repaired?"
Done. But, I can't edit the poll question that shows in the poll. It's uneditable after you submit it the first time.
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