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Old 06-11-09, 07:38 PM   #1
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Miche Pistard track vs. Cane Creek Track V vs. Custom

I'm going to apologize in advance for all these threads I've posted in advance but I would like to place my order tomorrow and I cant make up my mind on certain things like wheels and such. So here are what I am thinking are my three options:

1. Cane Creek Track V
http://www.thebikebiz.com/PhotoGalle...TRK-WHL-CANE02

2. Miche Pistard Track
http://www.ride-this.com/index.php/m...-wheelset.html

3. Handbuilt wheels built by myself (and yes I've built wheels before) consisting of Miche Primato hubs, DT Swiss Revolution spokes, and Deep-Vs.

These will be going on a Surly Steamroller with a Sram Omnium Crank as for set up. What do you guys think? Ups and downs for either of the first options? Thanks, Greg
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I run Miche hubs laced to CXP 33s & love em. I do run Phil lockrings and Phil bearings though.
My Miche bearings always had an unexplainable drag and I had to adjust them every two weeks or so.

The Cane Creek Track V looks like a really nice setup and would be interested in hearing what people have to say about them.
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Old 06-14-09, 08:12 AM   #3
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anybody else?
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I like the cane creeks, but it is a shame that if they are going to re think the wheel and design a new type of hub that they did not do a bolt on cog.
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What is everyone's obsession with bolt on cogs?



I have never had an issue w/ a cog slipping before...


If you install it properly and the hub is properly manufactured, there shouldn't be an issue
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Those Cane Creek hubs do look pretty fancy and kinda cool in a weird sorta way, but they also look very untrustworthy to me, especially for riding on the street.
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What is everyone's obsession with bolt on cogs?



I have never had an issue w/ a cog slipping before...


If you install it properly and the hub is properly manufactured, there shouldn't be an issue
The Track V's are a flip flop hub not bolt on
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miche pistard $270+free ship

http://aebike.com/page.cfm?PageID=30...ils&sku=WE2102
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thanks but i work at a shop so I would be ordering them through a supplier
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I rode the Cane Creeks for around 4 months and they are really strong wheels with the rough roads I ride on. I'm 190lbs so that speaks pretty well of how they hold up. They definitely as fast to spin up and don't feel as "heavy" as the #s say. The hubs are absolutely gorgeous though!


Funny you put this up because I have a set I'm selling (but a pending buyer said they're going to buy them). If they back out would be interested in buying them? They are the Cane Creek Track V-33 carbon wrapped clincher model. I'm selling them for much cheaper than what Bike Biz is selling the version you linked. I'm selling because I have the wheelset sitting around because I changed the wheels on my other bike which were hand built (I hate having parts sit around not being used so I'd rather have someone else use them. I'd rather use the wheels that were custom built than sell them off).
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The hubs are absolutely gorgeous though!
That picture sells 'em alright. That looks sexy. I still don't think I'd trust one on the rear on the street though.

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I rode the Cane Creeks for around 4 months and they are really strong wheels with the rough roads I ride on. I'm 190lbs so that speaks pretty well of how they hold up. They definitely as fast to spin up and don't feel as "heavy" as the #s say. The hubs are absolutely gorgeous though!


Funny you put this up because I have a set I'm selling (but a pending buyer said they're going to buy them). If they back out would be interested in buying them? They are the Cane Creek Track V-33 carbon wrapped clincher model. I'm selling them for much cheaper than what Bike Biz is selling the version you linked. I'm selling because I have the wheelset sitting around because I changed the wheels on my other bike which were hand built (I hate having parts sit around not being used so I'd rather have someone else use them. I'd rather use the wheels that were custom built than sell them off).
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not to de-rail, but semi on topic... has anyone tried the pistards? seems like a low cost option from a quality name, but do they hold up for street riding?
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not to de-rail, but semi on topic... has anyone tried the pistards? seems like a low cost option from a quality name, but do they hold up for street riding?
Not derailed at all I was wondering the same exact thing. The only problem is they arent machined for those that want to run a brake but who needs brakes
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awesome wheels and crankset all around ...but on a steamroller?
v's seem most appropriate then, imo; esp. if you're gonna build em.
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awesome wheels and crankset all around ...but on a steamroller?
v's seem most appropriate then, imo; esp. if you're gonna build em.
well im still deciding between a steamroller and the gt gutterball. does anyone have experience with them and ridden them and even better have pics of them on their bike? thanks, greg
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greg- I don't have experience w/ the gutterball but I'm just going to throw this out there---that bike is LAME. I'm sure lots of people will get onto me for not explaining myself and giving good reasoning, whatever, I just don't like it. I think it is a half-ass attempt by GT to recapture an old frame design in time to sell to fixie crazed cyclists. Nothing about it seems cool to me. Just get the steamroller. SR is a great bike by a cool company that I would rather support than GT.
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No obsesssion with bolt on cogs, but if you are going to put that much effort into rethinking and redesigning the hub, you might as well go with the better system for cog attachment.
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This is a sweet looking steamroller with your cranks
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greg- I don't have experience w/ the gutterball but I'm just going to throw this out there---that bike is LAME. I'm sure lots of people will get onto me for not explaining myself and giving good reasoning, whatever, I just don't like it. I think it is a half-ass attempt by GT to recapture an old frame design in time to sell to fixie crazed cyclists. Nothing about it seems cool to me. Just get the steamroller. SR is a great bike by a cool company that I would rather support than GT.
Damn you bikeforums.net haha. I think I'm set on something and then I get a comment like this and I start rethinking everything haha. Now I'm kinda leaning towards the SR. WTF haha
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And has anybody actually ridden the Pistards?
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don't listen to people like atx who tell you what to not do and can't back it up. I'm not educated much on either frame, and I know the SR is a great bike but I've always loved the gtb and would go with the gtb.

The cane creeks my fav option you posted. But you should really build your own wheels, but forget the veeps and do some open pro CD, ceramic, or some cxp 33
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don't listen to people like atx who tell you what to not do and can't back it up. I'm not educated much on either frame, and I know the SR is a great bike but I've always loved the gtb and would go with the gtb.

The cane creeks my fav option you posted. But you should really build your own wheels, but forget the veeps and do some open pro CD, ceramic, or some cxp 33
open pros are fine rims, but overrated. kinlins are the new top dog.
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don't listen to people like atx who tell you what to not do and can't back it up. I'm not educated much on either frame, and I know the SR is a great bike but I've always loved the gtb and would go with the gtb.

The cane creeks my fav option you posted. But you should really build your own wheels, but forget the veeps and do some open pro CD, ceramic, or some cxp 33
Thanks dude, here's my build I'm looking at right now:

Frame: GT Gutterball
Front wheel: Forte Titan road wheel (for now)
Rear wheel: Miche Pistard (or Miche hubs laced to something else maybe)
Crank: Sram Omnium
Headset: Crank Bros Cobalt
Stem: Deda Zero
Bars: ITM Visia Strada
Seatpost: FSA SL-K Carbon
Seat: WTB Silverado (stock)
Tires: Continental Ultra Gatorskins
Chain: Miche Track

I'm pretty pumped on it. Ordering everything thursday
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don't listen to people like atx who tell you what to not do and can't back it up. I'm not educated much on either frame, and I know the SR is a great bike but I've always loved the gtb and would go with the gtb.

The cane creeks my fav option you posted. But you should really build your own wheels, but forget the veeps and do some open pro CD, ceramic, or some cxp 33
be clear though, the GTB is NOT the same as the Gutterball. Look at pictures of the 2 side by side. The Gutterball has rear brake braze-ons, a top tube that slants towards the seat tube instead of the head tube, slacker head tube angle. I'm don't even think the Gutterball is aluminum. These are not the same bikes.
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