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Old 06-12-09, 07:56 AM   #1
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headset rattling over bumps

I have tried searching around for this and everything says to just tighten it.

Its hard to hear where the rattle is coming from but its definitely the headset somewhere I think. It is real annoying over bumps. Should I just tighten everything? I don't want to squash the bearings to much.

Thanks for your input
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Old 06-12-09, 08:00 AM   #2
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is it just a rattle or does it wiggle too?
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Old 06-12-09, 08:05 AM   #3
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I would say a little of both. How tight does everything have to be? I wouldnt say any of it is very tight, I just dont want to overtighten
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For me, my headset started to click when it was on too tight (rather than not tight enough).

Either way, you can partially disassemble your steering column and put it back together and see if that fixes it.
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For me, my headset started to click when it was on too tight (rather than not tight enough).

Either way, you can partially disassemble your steering column and put it back together and see if that fixes it.
Kind of a pain because the bearings don't have a retainer.
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Ah, I dunno then. The only problem I've ever had with my headset being noisy was when it was over-tightened.
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If you have wiggle and you have it as tight as possible without binding your headtube may be slightly ovalized. No real repair for that except a new frame.

I would take apart and inspect the headset and decide if it is a headset or headtube issue.


Maybe this might help:
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http://www.parktool.com/repair/readhowto.asp?id=127
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It shouldn't be hard to keep any bearings in any race - if there's enough grease, they'll stay in.

If your headset is lose, you should tighten it. If you tightened it too much, you should be able to feel it by turning the headset.

If you're not sure what to do, take it to a shop.

If you keep riding with a lose headset, you risk damaging the headset.
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If you have wiggle and you have it as tight as possible without binding your headtube may be slightly ovalized.
more likely, the steerer is too long and is contacting the underside of the stem cap (if threadless) or locknut (if threaded), preventing the preload from acting on the bearings (ie: you're preloading the steerer).

if you're asking a question like this, i'm going to suggest that you shouldn't be doing the repair yourself.
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Honestly I would say its not a wiggle. I don't think its as bad as I may have made it seem. I guess if it keeps up Ill bring it to the LBS but I think I can handle it. I was just looking for some input.

It is a threaded quill stem by the way
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grab your front brake and try to push the bike forward. do you feel anything?

put your other hand around the headset, where the fork crown meets the bottom of your head tube. grab brake, push forward. do you feel anything shifting? if so, your headset needs to be tightened. a shop will loosen the locknut, tighten the adjustable race, and then tighten the race and the locknut to each other in a way that keeps the bearings at that intersection of snug and smooth.

it's hard to do without the right tools.
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more likely, the steerer is too long and is contacting the underside of the stem cap (if threadless) or locknut (if threaded), preventing the preload from acting on the bearings (ie: you're preloading the steerer).
good point, didn't think of that as a possible cause.
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Well maybe I will just take it apart and put it back together again. Its bugging me. The steering is a bit stiff, so I am thinking I shouldn't simply tighten the adjustable race and lockring
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more likely, the steerer is too long and is contacting the underside of the stem cap (if threadless) or locknut (if threaded), preventing the preload from acting on the bearings (ie: you're preloading the steerer).

if you're asking a question like this, i'm going to suggest that you shouldn't be doing the repair yourself.
+1

That is the only thing I could think of if your headset is rattling.
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you probably did not make sure the fork sat evenly within the headtube/headset when installing. I personally like to put the fork in when the frame is upside down and adjust the headset while upside down as well. This tends to eliminate play.
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Are you sure it's not your brake lever? I have a tektro reverse bar end lever on my bullhorns and it rattles whenever I go over a bump (if I'm not holding onto it). It could be that...

Also, something else that rattles on my bike are my straps for my clips. The little buckles on my straps rattle a lot.
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Yea its definitely my headset area. I will take it apart and redo it tomorrow morning. Its a threaded fork
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