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Old 06-18-09, 12:40 PM
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No, I meant hipsters are the #1 people who make fun of hipsters. That's what I meant by my comment.

Anyhow, I don't think Jerry Seinfeld is a hilarious guy. But he at least understands that observation must be combined with a humorous element before it becomes observational humor. (Which is exactly why "What's the deal with corn nuts? Is it a corn or is it a nut?!?" is not a funny Seinfeld joke. It is just an observation that lacks a humorous element.)

The author of this comic as an astute observer if not a cyclist him/herself. But he or she totally misses the mark in terms of actual humor. If anything, it is an editorial. It's sad because this person is paid to be a comic strip artist. Which implies he or she should be capable of writing comical material.

And as I said before, the drawing style is really gross.

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Originally Posted by Carlovahnsexron
Also, I've drawn better looking things while holding a marker with my sphincter.
I'm sure that's how you tried to explain it to the ER nurse. Kidding...


Having spent a few years in Boulder and now living in the DC area, it's kinda funny. I doubt the guy is a bike hater, and given the chance would probably be just as likely to do one about motorists.
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Originally Posted by devilshaircut
No, I meant hipsters are the #1 people who make fun of hipsters. That's what I meant by my comment.
Indeed.
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[snip]Meanwhile, they don't say anything or smile or wave or nod or anything.
This is one of the ways that I try to differentiate myself from all of the new converts to fixed gear (I am one). I try to be friendly. I can have nice interactions with 99% of the people I run into in NYC, and I have nearly NOTHING in common with them. Then I run into folks who are not only riding bikes, but riding fixed and I get nothing but snarls and people staring at my rear cog and frame decals.
This is NOT what life is about. If riding your bike is making you so competitive, materialistic and angry then maybe its time to find something that makes you feel happy and kind.

BE NICE!
Sorry for the hijack...
I think the cartoons are great... If you cant laugh at yourself and realize that you are NOT the stereotype n the cartoon then your ego is a bit to tightly wrapped. Have fun, be nice.
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Old 06-18-09, 01:57 PM
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i thought it was pretty hilarious. could have done a better job making fun of the roadies tho.
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Originally Posted by devilshaircut
No, I meant hipsters are the #1 people who make fun of hipsters. That's what I meant by my comment.

Anyhow, I don't think Jerry Seinfeld is a hilarious guy. But he at least understands that observation must be combined with a humorous element before it becomes observational humor. (Which is exactly why "What's the deal with corn nuts? Is it a corn or is it a nut?!?" is not a funny Seinfeld joke. It is just an observation that lacks a humorous element.)

The author of this comic as an astute observer if not a cyclist him/herself. But he or she totally misses the mark in terms of actual humor. If anything, it is an editorial. It's sad because this person is paid to be a comic strip artist. Which implies he or she should be capable of writing comical material.

And as I said before, the drawing style is really gross.
I do agree that usually people making fun of hipsters are, themselves, hipsters. This is because a lot of peole don't even know what a hipster is. Some of the only people that are aware of hipsters, and their obnoxious attributes, are hipsters as well.

As a cyclist and a FG rider, I am obviously aware of hipsters. They have invaded the world of cycling which I am involved in. A lot of things about them piss me off, but mainly their cocky and mean spirited attitude. I assure you, I am not a hipster in any way shape or form, but I have been around them enough and know enough about them to dislike them.

This is not me being insecure about possibly being a hipster, no, this is genuine dislike of the hipster persona.

Like I said, I have met a few hipsters that I am cool with, but I don't respect 99% of them b/c they don't deserve respect. Combine that with their arrogance and you have a recipe for extreme dislike.

Don't take yourself so seriously, devilsheadband, maybe you're one of the cool hipsters. After all, 1/100 aren't THAT bad of odds...

You do earn immediate respect by being openly gay--something that many of your hipster peers don't have the balls to admit.
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Well obviously there is no way to prove or disprove this, but just in my experiences, it's always hipsters themselves who see to it that hipsters are constantly derided. For example:

https://www.adbusters.org/magazine/79/hipster.html :

"So… this is a hipster party?" I ask the girl sitting next to me. She’s wearing big dangling earrings, an American Apparel V-neck tee, non-prescription eyeglasses and an inappropriately warm wool coat.

"Yeah, just look around you, 99 percent of the people here are total hipsters!"

"Are you a hipster?"

"**** no," she says, laughing back the last of her glass before she hops off to the dance floor."


I hope this article does not spawn another hipster discussion coz that's another dead horse ripe to be beaten. But anyhow, it's basically talking about hipsters disowning the identity, and is further ironic because Adbusters is a mag whose primary readership consists of hipsters.

I do hope the Devilshairband thing catches here though coz people tend to identify me by what I wear IRL as well. As for the gay thing, well, I roll with the punches. I don't pretend that's the easiest part of my life.
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Originally Posted by devilshaircut
Well obviously there is no way to prove or disprove this, but just in my experiences, it's always hipsters themselves who see to it that hipsters are constantly derided. For example:

https://www.adbusters.org/magazine/79/hipster.html :

"So… this is a hipster party?" I ask the girl sitting next to me. She’s wearing big dangling earrings, an American Apparel V-neck tee, non-prescription eyeglasses and an inappropriately warm wool coat.

"Yeah, just look around you, 99 percent of the people here are total hipsters!"

"Are you a hipster?"

"**** no," she says, laughing back the last of her glass before she hops off to the dance floor."


I hope this article does not spawn another hipster discussion coz that's another dead horse ripe to be beaten. But anyhow, it's basically talking about hipsters disowning the identity, and is further ironic because Adbusters is a mag whose primary readership consists of hipsters.

I do hope the Devilshairband thing catches here though coz people tend to identify me by what I wear IRL as well. As for the gay thing, well, I roll with the punches. I don't pretend that's the easiest part of my life.
I was sincere when I said that I thought that was respectable. It was meant as a jab to hipsters, not you. Yes, this convo is beating a dead horse. I do think that we can all agree that there are some less-than-desireable traits that are common to hipsters.
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Yeah I know you were being sincere. Even if you think I am a dirty hipster, I still think you are one of the more logical posters here.
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Here's the link: https://blogs.westword.com/latestword...mers_ter_1.php

There's a lot of anti bike sentiment going around this month in Denver for some reason.
hm. not terribly inaccurate, actually
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some folks loves to get theyselves all offended mm hmm hmm
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oh, no, people are complaining about hipsters again...



Thank you Cat and Girl for clearing that all up
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oh, no, people are complaining about hipsters again...



Thank you Cat and Girl for clearing that all up
lol omg. I was just called a cat. ****.
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I thought the comics were funny but generally just a re-hash of all the stereotypes (most of them true) about cyclists.

I think a better cartoon about fixed gear kids would be someone on a brakeless track bike grinding up a hill while a roadie with a triple sails past them at a leisurely pace.
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It sounds to me like the author himself is a cyclist, there is just too much cycling jargon and brand knowledge for him not to be. Lighten up folks, he's not advocating running over cyclists or anything.

Cue BS 'civil rights' post.........
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Wait!

He missed the "mama-chari" cyclists in Japan! Babes on Back and front. Using cellular while vehicle-nagotiating. Going against the traffics. Never using brakes (they could be the first no-break-ss people). Always expecting other guy to stop. And, they are pretty aggressive. Get a group of em together they start competing. (Totally ignoring the rest of traffic.)

I really would like to see that in cartoon.

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Originally Posted by monsieuroctagon
I thought the comics were funny but generally just a re-hash of all the stereotypes (most of them true) about cyclists.

I think a better cartoon about fixed gear kids would be someone on a brakeless track bike grinding up a hill while a roadie with a triple sails past them at a leisurely pace.
Yep, that was me yesterday.
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I don't think anyone in this thread sounded offended. Speaking only for myself, but I think the problem with the cartoon is that it's not funny.

Another example:



Newspaper comics aren't funny. The one about cyclists is just worse than most.
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Modded newspaper comics FTW
https://garfieldminusgarfield.net/
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Hah yeah I've seen this before. Pretty funny. Way funnier than the actual Garfield.
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Yea, he was trying to make a joke, a cheap one, but a joke... Really it just fuels cyclist hate so- glad he god some laughs out of it, we're the ones who pay. There are totally bikers that fall close to those stereotypes but now people who were oblivious to the stereotypes before and thought of each cyclist as an individua will now fit them into negative stereotypes, that sucks.
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Originally Posted by devilshaircut
No, I meant hipsters are the #1 people who make fun of hipsters. That's what I meant by my comment.

Anyhow, I don't think Jerry Seinfeld is a hilarious guy. But he at least understands that observation must be combined with a humorous element before it becomes observational humor. (Which is exactly why "What's the deal with corn nuts? Is it a corn or is it a nut?!?" is not a funny Seinfeld joke. It is just an observation that lacks a humorous element.)

The author of this comic as an astute observer if not a cyclist him/herself. But he or she totally misses the mark in terms of actual humor. If anything, it is an editorial. It's sad because this person is paid to be a comic strip artist. Which implies he or she should be capable of writing comical material.

And as I said before, the drawing style is really gross.
You are just bitter because you are a hipster.
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