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Old 06-20-09, 07:51 PM   #1
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ongoing search for a good quill stem

Alright, I'm finally taking a break from Google searches and the like to ask the board...does anyone here know of a good 1 1/8" quill stem (silver alloy, 25.4 clamp) with a 105-110mm reach and fully-removable faceplate? I've already found (and even considered ) the Profile BOA but I feel that even the 110d has too much rise.

I'm not looking for anything "vintage", "tarck" or whatever...just a simple, fairly inexpensive quill stem. Any help will be appreciated!
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Old 06-20-09, 08:21 PM   #2
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25.4 clamp, 22.2 column, 105-110 length. Right?

I dunno what you mean by a removable face plate. Are you talking about a type of quill stems that let you remove your bar without having to remove the grips / bar-tape? (with the frontal portion being removable.)

Those are uncommon now. I know a few. Salsa (polished black, 26mm nead shim, http://www.salsacycles.com/stems.html), Nitto (26mm so you need shims), Deda, some 3T stuff (I have seen these, but dunno too much about em).

I dunno too much about stem rises, but I think most of roadie stuff is 72-75 degrees. I have never seen too many "low rise" (non-custom) quill stem other than Nitto Jaguar stems (58 degrees), but the face plates are not removable like this:



And this is 72 degrees.



Choices are kinda narrow.

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Old 06-20-09, 08:24 PM   #3
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if it's that important to you you might want to just get a converter. It would vastly widen your options to go threadless..
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Old 06-20-09, 08:35 PM   #4
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I know a converter is an option and would give me about a million stems to choose from, but for some reason I'm not 100% for it. My brain keeps screaming that a threaded headset and threadless-type stem looks odd together.

I'm basically looking for this, with a little less rise:
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dude. ur not gonna find it. ur criteria is simply too specific. you are gonna have to give up one of your requirements.
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Sigh...I know.

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Get that one and have a welder cut it and change the angle... it shouldn't be terribly difficult to do. Something to think about if you can spare a bit of change. A small shop shouldn't really hose you for it either. I guess it would **** the finish though... could always have it re-finished though too, or just powder-coat it a terrible neon colour for the uber-tarck look
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salsa?
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wtf 1 1/8 quill stems? i thought they were only 1".

guess you learn something new everyday...
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I know a converter is an option and would give me about a million stems to choose from, but for some reason I'm not 100% for it. My brain keeps screaming that a threaded headset and threadless-type stem looks odd together.

I'm basically looking for this, with a little less rise:
Most of other stems have lower rise. In fact, you can get a Profile stem with lower rise. Keep searching. I think you need to spend more time searching. ... In a mean while, let me list what you want. You better correct me if I am wrong.

1. 25.4 bar clamp (or do you mean 25.4 head size?)
2. 105-110mm length
3. angle less than ~105 degrees
4. silver
5. face-plate removable (elaborate)
6. cheap

I still think your life is all set if you forgo face-plate thing. Ebay and other auction place is full of quill stems with these conditions.

Also, you can opt for 26.0mm bar clamp size and use shims to use 25.4mm bars. This lets you have more options like Nitto UI-2 stems. (These have removable face plates)

I use Nitto stems, by the way. Kinda annoying, but usable and very solid. ... pros and cons in everything.

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lol why are you concerned about the rise?

(pssst! threaded stems are adjustable vertically.)
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lol why are you concerned about the rise?

(pssst! threaded stems are adjustable vertically.)
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if you have a 1 1/8th, you have to give up on ever having a nice stem of any sort, let along one of dimensions you desire.

I'd get an adapter, or else just convert to threadless entirely.
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lol why are you concerned about the rise?

(pssst! threaded stems are adjustable vertically.)
Because I usually run riser bars and even with the stem slammed all the way down, too much rise from my stem will result in having my hands be too far up to ride comfortably. Besides, my bike will also most likely end up looking like some homeless dude's DUI cruiser with a setup like that.

The need for a removable face comes from my switching to bullhorns occasionally.
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if you have a 1 1/8th, you have to give up on ever having a nice stem of any sort, let along one of dimensions you desire.

I'd get an adapter, or else just convert to threadless entirely.
I was actually thinking of just going threadless altogether. I'm not particularly in love with my fork and just found this on the 'bay:

http://cgi.ebay.com/road-fork-1-1-8-...lenotsupported
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then maybe you should consider different bars?

not trying to be a dick, but there are reasons threadless has taken over, and you are just systematically listing them one by one.

What exactly do you want us to tell you?
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How stable/stiff would something like this be?
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then maybe you should consider different bars?

not trying to be a dick, but there are reasons threadless has taken over, and you are just systematically listing them one by one.

What exactly do you want us to tell you?
HAHA...why should I compromise the bars I really like because I'm looking for a new stem?

I was simply just hoping that one of you guys would happen to know of a decent quill stem out there in the vast sea of bike parts available that might be what I'm looking for. I've searched quite a bit and honestly find it difficult to believe that no one makes a quill stem with zero rise.



Apologies for asking.
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How stable/stiff would something like this be?
if you care about actual functionality, go threadless.
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How stable/stiff would something like this be?
They are fine. I have had one on my commuter for years. But I wouldn't use one if I rode everywhere as if I were riding a track race.
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What if I were to get a 1" quill and shim it? I've never used a shim on anything. Are there any drawbacks???
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I wouldn't use an adjustable stem. They are good for fitting purposes but lack the stiffness that a real stem would have. Quill stems in general suck the big one, though, so I think you should just go threadless w/ everything.

As far as shims go, i don't know if you can even use them w/ quill stems. I know plenty of people who use shims when putting a 9/8" stem on a 1" steerer tube (threadless), but I have never heard of someone using a shim for a quill stem. You would probably have to put the shim inside the steerer tube which could be weird.
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Maybe it's the old-school BMX kid still alive in me but I'm attached to the threaded headset/quill-style stem. There are a few companies that make shims to fit a 1" quill inside a 1 1/8 tube but yeah, I think I would feel weird just having a shim in there...like it would be on the unsafe side, for some reason (that's probably just me being crazy).

Adjustable just doesn't seem like a good idea either. I'm not riding full-bore all the time but there a few gnarly hills I hit from time to time where i have to dig in pretty hard.

Even though these things are kinda ugly, I may just go ahead and buy two of them (they're cheap enough) and keep one on my risers and one on my 'horns so I can switch them without too much hassle:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...lenotsupported
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dude.
just buy a new fork.
your bike is stupid right now.
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