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Old 06-23-09, 05:27 PM   #1
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Got my new black Kilo TT!

Came yesterday from BD and I put it together in about 30 min.

Rode it for an hour for the first time and today im sore down there haha.

Hows the fit look?

I'm 5''8 bike is 53 cm





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Old 06-23-09, 05:42 PM   #2
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Doesn't look too bad to me, but I'm no expert on fit.

How is your leg extension? A pic with the pedals at 12 and 6 o' clock would tell us more.

How does it feel?

A lot of people hate the seat, but I have had no problems with it. I would give it a week or so of good solid riding and then see how you feel about it before you swap it out.

Also, you would probably get better responses if you posted this in the Kilo TT thread vs. making a new one.
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Old 06-23-09, 06:56 PM   #3
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The seat looks shoved a little forward which can point to too long of reach. Quick fix could be swapping the stem, those stems are huge though and kinda weak. I'm swapping mine out immediately when it comes, you might want to do the same. I'd try and find a 90 mm, good cheap upgrade that will really improve your ride. I know it requires 1" but get a shim ($5) and the more common 1 1/8" will work fine. And don't worry if the bars don't fit the new stem from what I've read the stock bars are crap too.

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Old 06-23-09, 07:13 PM   #4
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what stem are you swapping yours with? I would thing a seat that is shoved to forward would result in the opposite of being out of reach as the handle bars would be closer.
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Old 06-23-09, 07:37 PM   #5
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Saddle is too low.
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The stem that comes with the kilo is ********-long. Im not claiming to be an expert, but for me it is most important to dial in the height / fore-aft of the seat, and then get a stem / bar situation that works with the seat position. For me with riding in the city, I like the stem to be really short and sit quite upright. otherwise my hands hurt. boo-hoo.
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I'd second the motion for a picture of you on the bike and the cranks at 6/12-o-clock. It looks like you could probably raise the saddle just a hair.

I also suggest a shorter stem- that one does look really long. After that, you're going to have to re-evaluate your saddle height and fore/aft position.

That's a huge steerer tube, too- which isn't a big deal, honestly. The bike is currently set up for a comfortable position. After you get the stem and saddle issues worked out and comfortable, and you're feeling frisky (and not carrying a backpack, etc), try sliding the stem and spacers off the steerer tube, then put the stem on first and stack the spacers on top.
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Old 06-23-09, 09:33 PM   #8
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Shorter stem = shorter reach.
Ignore my 90 mm suggestion that was stupid of me to give such a concrete suggestion. If I were you I'd head to your LBS and talk to them. (read: stop listening to us) We are just pointing out warning signs based on a few photos and suggesting directions you should be moving towards for a solution. But the biggest direction you should be moving is to a LBS with someone who knows their s***t and can see you on the bike in person.
Oh and I'm waiting till mine is delivered so I can figure out what works best for me.
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Old 06-23-09, 09:56 PM   #10
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Looks like it fits at least decently. If your saddle's at the correct height, then with that little saddle-to-bar drop I'd imagine it's pretty comfy. It looks like the saddle may be just a tad low, but if it's low enough to be outside the acceptable range it really isn't out by much. The pics of you on it really don't tell us much though, go have your LBS evaluate your fit. There are a lot of things we can't see, or maybe you'd actually like a more aggressive fit, etc.
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Old 06-23-09, 10:01 PM   #11
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I'll head to my LBS in the next few days and post a few more pics of me on this thing tomorrow. Thanks for all the suggestions.
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While you're there have them grease and tighten everything if you haven't already, you run the risk of efing up the bike an more importantly yourself, BD is notorious for sending bikes out bone dry and loose. I'm having a mechanic friend of mine go over everything with me. Check the "Kilo tt pics forum there's a ton of info on there.

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Old 06-24-09, 08:49 AM   #13
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how do you like it so far? my brother is thinking about getting one
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i like it a lot. I can see how a shorter stem would feel better. Ill make the investment soon.
Lowered my handle bars a few spacers and raised the seat about an inch.
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i like it a lot. I can see how a shorter stem would feel better. Ill make the investment soon.
Lowered my handle bars a few spacers and raised the seat about an inch.
instead of lowering the bars a few spacers, try just flipping the stem.
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Which one of these stems do you guys recommend and at what size that will fit my tt?

http://www.bikeisland.com/cgi-bin/BK...Parts:%20Stems

under 50$. I was thinking the Salsa MotoAce SUL
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check pricepoint for stems.
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You want a 1" steerer tube diameter stem.
Most come in 1-1/8'' size, but you can find them, unless you get that Thomson adaptor,
But I think I would just stick with the stem you have now, flip it over and put it to the top of your spacer stack.

You only need a shorter stem if you have to stretch too much to reach the bars. In the photo, your reach looks fine.
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I think the Ritchey in 90mm looks better. But you'll need a shim for you steerer tube.
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The stem that comes with the kilo is ********-long. Im not claiming to be an expert, but for me it is most important to dial in the height / fore-aft of the seat, and then get a stem / bar situation that works with the seat position. For me with riding in the city, I like the stem to be really short and sit quite upright. otherwise my hands hurt. boo-hoo.
doesn't a short stem mean you lean forward more or hunch over more and not sit upright?

I ride in the city and it hurts my hands
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doesn't a short stem mean you lean forward more or hunch over more and not sit upright?
think about this one really hard and get back to us.
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First off no one can tell you one saddle is good for you or not, it depends on your body and how long you've been riding cause after a while you pretty much can ride a crappy saddle like the stock one on your bike without hurting you as much.
Fit is going to be dependent on your body as well and your fitness level so how long you've been riding a bike goes a long way in setting up your bike.
don't go buying a new shorter stem just because people here are telling you to or because they think the stock one is "Too long" ??? Without knowing your reach or more of your measurements there's no way anyone can say your saddle is too forward or seatpost is too low or how to adjust your bike!
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Yeah. The way I have it set up is fine, and i'll save my money. Ill try out my friends set ups and adjust accordingly based on how i feel.
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Replace the saddle, bars and stem. Don't take spacers out just flip the stem and see how it goes. Your saddle is too far forward in the first pic. Get a proper fit so you dont regret things later.
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