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    Toe Overlap

    wow. I've been riding an IRO mark V for years, and it has a little rake to the fork. I just set up a Pinarello frame and fork and theres a LOT of toe overlap! getting around cabs, in between cars gets really crazy. I have the Miche pedals, and maybe the clips are longer than the MKS Im used to?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ottoMesh View Post
    wow. I've been riding an IRO mark V for years, and it has a little rake to the fork. I just set up a Pinarello frame and fork and theres a LOT of toe overlap! getting around cabs, in between cars gets really crazy. I have the Miche pedals, and maybe the clips are longer than the MKS Im used to?
    A mark v is more of a commuter type with a laid back relaxed geo while a true track geo frame will be tighter since you don't need to have the motion so much on the track but you'll get use to it.

    I went from a steamroller which had a relaxed geo to a kilo tt
    after I wrecked and boy was the toe overlapping scary but I've gotten use to it and can go thru traffic no problem.
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    First of all, I want to say:

    TOEVERLAP

    I swear I will get that term to catch on.

    OP: you're probably thinking about it too much. I ride a tight-ass Japanese track frame with miles of toeerlap and it's only ever an issue at about 2 mph dicking around in a parking lot somewhere.

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    exactly. 7th avenue around times square, getting through lanes and lanes of standstill to 2 mile per hour traffic requires sharp lefts and rights and the toeverlap is really scary. i think my MKS clips are shorter, and less of my foot goes into the pedal.

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    Even so, just get more used to it and you'll be fine. I compensate for it without even thinking now.

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    thanks dave. is that Fugazi Dave cause youre a fugazi/Ian fan?

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    Indirectly, yes. I love Fugazi and put a Fugazi patch on a hat in college. My friend Jen knew two Daves, me being one of them, and eventually started calling me "Fugazi Dave" to differentiate between the two of us in conversation. It stuck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fugazi Dave View Post
    Indirectly, yes. I love Fugazi and put a Fugazi patch on a hat in college. My friend Jen knew two Daves, me being one of them, and eventually started calling me "Fugazi Dave" to differentiate between the two of us in conversation. It stuck.
    heh, i know ian and joe. they are some nice guys. I think joe moved away with his fam.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rdubbz View Post
    heh, i know ian and joe. they are some nice guys. I think joe moved away with his fam.
    sick

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    i'm a shorter guy so every bike i own has toe overlap. only time its ever been a problem in traffic was while trackstanding if i put the front wheel at toe much of an angle and forget about it.

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    I ate **** once from trackstanding and toe overlap. That's the only problem I ever had.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rdubbz View Post
    heh, i know ian and joe. they are some nice guys. I think joe moved away with his fam.
    Excellent. Closest I've come was about 3' from the stage when they played Fort Reno Park in DC in the summer of 2002. Epic show.

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    What brands have less toeverlap...haha on their smaller sized frames, like a 49cm? I did some figuring, and the Jamis Sputnik seemed to have more room than others after I subtracted the chain stay length from the wheel base. Is that a decent way to estimate?

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    Bikes that lean more towards road geo will have less toe overlap. The Sputnik's one of them.

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    What other brands and models are more the road type?

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    Don't do what I did without realizing it: use 700c wheels in an old road bike frame designed for 27" wheels. Then, yes, you will truly know toe overlap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by andmalc View Post
    Don't do what I did without realizing it: use 700c wheels in an old road bike frame designed for 27" wheels. Then, yes, you will truly know toe overlap.
    aren't 700c wheels SMALLER than 27"?
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    They sure are.

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    TOEVERLAP is not an issue. Move along.

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    I can compensate by timing my pedaling and turning so I don't hit the tire.

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    That is what I do with my Olmo road bike. I have about an inch and a half of overlap, but then its not a fixed gear bike.

    Having said that, I have had my toe scrape the tire on one occasion, in busy traffic, but it did not disturb my balance.
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    TOEVERLAP, get used to it or get a beach cruiser.

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