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Old 08-19-09, 07:50 AM   #1
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Do you use pedal washers with your Sugino cranks?

I wonder about this; all of my "newer" style cranksets (external bb race face, truvativ, etc) come with pedal washers. However, my Sugino 75's did not.

I removed my MKS pedals last night to put some toshis on, and I noticed how marred the aluminum is around the pedal threading on the crank arm. Are you supposed to be using pedal washers with the Sugino cranks or what?
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since appearance is the strong suit of the 75s, yes, you are.
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Old 08-19-09, 08:53 AM   #3
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Hey Adriano, what cranks are you running
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Outside of carbon cranks, why the **** do you need washers?
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The wrench flats on cheap MKS pedals like the Sylvan and Stream create an offset gouge in the crank arm; models like the RX-1 have nicer spindles with a fully circular seating surface beyond the wrench flats, eliminating the need for pedal washers. Installing/removing the cheaper MKS pedals a few times creates an uneven seating surface at the spindle and crankarm.

I'm wondering if there's people who have noticed this issue after a few years of use and said to themselves, "Hell, I wish I'd have used some pedal washers".

I mean, the question really isn't that complicated.

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Wanting to keep your cranks looking nice is perfectly reasonable, they're expensive and maintaining the threads and area around it will help re-sale value if you ever sell them in the future.

This is a case where there's no negative to using the washers, so why not? I haven't noticed any long term harm on my aluminum cranks, but there is some marring.

You can get a set here: http://www.velo-orange.com/pedalwashers.html

Or, probably from your LBS.
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Hey Adriano, what cranks are you running
i run and rock suntour cyclones without washers.
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Yea, you're right Rudetay.

Amidst all the flaming I seemed to have answered my own question.

This forum is the probably the best resource on the internet for quick, straightforward answers, pbft.
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Wanting to keep your cranks looking nice is perfectly reasonable, they're expensive and maintaining the threads and area around it will help re-sale value if you ever sell them in the future.

This is a case where there's no negative to using the washers, so why not? I haven't noticed any long term harm on my aluminum cranks, but there is some marring.

You can get a set here: http://www.velo-orange.com/pedalwashers.html

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How will a washer maintain the threads?

Also, I don't buy **** with the intent to sell it again. When I buy something I intend to ride until it's ground into the pavement.

I see no point in using washers on Al cranks. Had several second-hand cranks and none were ever used with washers and none ever saw ill-effects either.
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