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    wrist problems track drops

    Hello All,

    I've been using some track drops recently for riding around town, when I'm on the bike it feels fine, but afterwards my inner wrists are sore, which I'm assuming are from the cocked angle my wrists are at (I ride mostly the top of the drops). Has anyone else experienced this and can attribute this to the handlebars? I switched from bullhorns that angle my wrists the other way and I had no problem with those handlebars. Just wanted to see if I should change these out before my wrists get worse

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    How much/how long? It could be that the bars aren't well-suited to you, but also that the bars have you using hand positions that engage muscles that you're not used to using.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arthurwoo View Post
    Hello All,

    I've been using some track drops recently for riding around town, when I'm on the bike it feels fine, but afterwards my inner wrists are sore, which I'm assuming are from the cocked angle my wrists are at (I ride mostly the top of the drops). Has anyone else experienced this and can attribute this to the handlebars? I switched from bullhorns that angle my wrists the other way and I had no problem with those handlebars. Just wanted to see if I should change these out before my wrists get worse
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    Why the hell are you gripping the bars like that in the first place?

    Also as everyone else says with bike fitting. You should be able to let go of the bars and maintain the same position you were in before over your cockpit. That's how much pressure you should be putting down.

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    Track drops are only comfortable in one position. You might wanna try bullhorns or road drops. I can ride on the tops of track drops no problem, it's uncomfortable but I've never had any real pain from it. That said track drops are pretty, but fairly useless.

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    I'm not sure what a "cocked angle" is but if your hands are in a unnatural position on the bars that can cause repetitive use injuries, yes.
    And I don't think it'll get better either.

    Don't value aesthetics higher than comfort and just put the old bars back on.

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    dave - yesterday i rode a round trip from one city to another, about 1 hour total - i've done longer rides with the bullhorns and didn't have any issues

    zachee - i've seen a lot of people ride on top of track drops around the city, since i had an extra pair i thought i'd try it out to see what it was like. my handlebars / stem are lower so i'm in a more aero position, and i'd have to double check this, but i don't think i maintain the same position if i take my hands off. good tip, i'll try that.

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    thanks roberty

    rogwilco - yeah i think i will switch them out soon, i can feel it is more of a tendon/nerve issue rather than just sore muscles

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    im no expert but im sure the wrists are not designed to bear weight when they are cocked at an upward angle. i used to ride track drops and would grip the ends when i want to be aero and then if i want to keep my hand closer to the drop brake lever, i have to move my grip up towars the center of the curve. in either grip configuration, top or bottom, i try to keep my wrists parallel to my forearms so at least the weight bears on my elbows/shoulders 'cause wrists are quite delicate.

    anyway i've switched to RB-018 and couldn't be any more happier and comfortable!

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    I don't like straight dissing of track drops for reason other than inability to do barspins. There are plenty of people using em with no mishaps. I can ride on my thing for 2-3 hours without much problem and cotton bartape on top. I don't do bar spins.

    I think you guys are having problems because the bar is too low or/and too far away, or/and too narrow. This screws up your riding posture and a wrong posture gonna hurt for road drop, track drop, or even a riser and a straight bar (very unlikely I know).

    You should check out a road bike manual. They talk about riding postures. Spend time tweeking it out. It's gonna take weeks to get it right. If you are lazy, go with a riser. Twisting let you adjust for all kind of positions. Best invention ever. I am lucky because I use a quill stem. (except very little choice in style)

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    my 38cm wide cinelli track bars curve immediately away right at the stem clamp, so if I grab them on top, it's right at the stem. I tried a wider (42cm?) nitto track bar on another bike of mine, it had a longer flat section on top before it started the curve. So it felt a little more comfortable and controlable than the cinelli bar whan my hands were up top.
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    Is there actually any reason to use track bars on a road bike except style?

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    well if both the top flats and the drops are comfortable, yes.
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    I had the same problem.

    It is because track drops are not designed for you to rest your hands on the tops, and some people's wrists do not like bending in the way they have to on them.

    In the actual drop, I am fine, it's just the weird combination of forward and downsweep that kills my wrists.

    note how the most comfortable bars have rise and backsweep.

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    Track drops rule. I don't get wrist pain per se, but I do feel the need to frequently change my hand position after longer rides.

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    staying with track drops would make a lot of sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rogwilco View Post
    Is there actually any reason to use track bars on a road bike except style?
    No, there is absolutely no reason whatsoever. Even few track racers use track drops these days. They were nearly impossible to find no more than five years ago, but since the fixed gear explosion, everyone's making some uncomfortable hipster-approved bars.
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    the main cause of fit problems is riding your bike

    you should have just stopped riding so you could focus on color coordination

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    Hahha this is ridiculous.

    Everyone running drops is a loser, ftw!


    Bonechilling, what are track racers using if they're not using track drops? I don't ever seem to recall seeing anything but drops in keirin races.

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    That's because that's all keirin racers are allowed to use, and because keirin is a sprint event (the only event that track drops are useful for).

    Most track racers use conventional road bars.
    Quote Originally Posted by doofo View Post
    the main cause of fit problems is riding your bike

    you should have just stopped riding so you could focus on color coordination

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    When you grip track drops near the stem on on the shoulders, it bends your wrists so that the pinky is lower than the thumb. This is the opposite of anatomically correct. I suggest you either:
    use your handlebars properly; or
    replace them with different bars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomo_Ishi View Post
    I think you guys are having problems because the bar is too low or/and too far away, or/and too narrow. This screws up your riding posture and a wrong posture gonna hurt for road drop, track drop, or even a riser and a straight bar (very unlikely I know).

    You should check out a road bike manual. They talk about riding postures. Spend time tweeking it out. It's gonna take weeks to get it right. If you are lazy, go with a riser. Twisting let you adjust for all kind of positions. Best invention ever. I am lucky because I use a quill stem. (except very little choice in style)
    Thanks Tomo. Thanks everyone else, very helpful. I actually have played a lot with different stem lengths/heights/handlebars and frankly, I don't want to buy every single stem out there in order to figure out the right height. I ended up getting some gusset handlebars (well, a cheap knock off) and it's the most comfortable ride ever. Huge rise and sweep back. I had some nitto risers and some soma risers before but these are the most comfortable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomo_Ishi View Post
    I don't like straight dissing of track drops for reason other than inability to do barspins. There are plenty of people using em with no mishaps. I can ride on my thing for 2-3 hours without much problem and cotton bartape on top. I don't do bar spins.

    I think you guys are having problems because the bar is too low or/and too far away, or/and too narrow. This screws up your riding posture and a wrong posture gonna hurt for road drop, track drop, or even a riser and a straight bar (very unlikely I know).

    You should check out a road bike manual. They talk about riding postures. Spend time tweeking it out. It's gonna take weeks to get it right. If you are lazy, go with a riser. Twisting let you adjust for all kind of positions. Best invention ever. I am lucky because I use a quill stem. (except very little choice in style)
    +1 agreed

    Also not all track drops are the same. For example Nitto NJS compared to Deda drops, the curve going down to the drops is a bit sharper on Nitto's making the angle more severe to hold onto. It can make a bit of a difference, I ride Deda's at every hand position and personally love them. That said it seems most people can't ride the same way due to their wrists, so if it doesn't work for you just switch to something that does.

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    Bars hurt your wrists, get new bars.

    Next question.

    I wouldn't screw around with this as wrist pain can be hard to get rid of once you have it. I had a similiar issue compounded by the fact that I sit at the computer a million hours a day and ended up with a different bike with risers and Ergon grips eventually. Tried a ton of stems and bars and never got comfortable. Ergons were the biggest improvement by far. They distribute the pressure much better but don't look as cool as Ourys. Better to be able to ride without pain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bonechilling View Post
    Most track racers use conventional road bars.
    I disagree. I don't and most of the other guys and gals I see at the track don't either. I ride all events, including the longer ones like long scratch races. The only time I ride on the tops close to the stem is when I'm warming up or have given up in a race and surrendered. Road bars are not good when you get out of the saddle to accelerate while holding onto the drops and the tops get in the way of your forearms.

    My Bianchi Pista Concept came standard with track drops (Deda Elementi Pista), and they are quite easy to find online ( http://www.worldclasscycles.com/deda_track_alloy.htm ).

    Now, as to using them on a road fixed gear is IMO downright silly.

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