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    2008 Madison for $295 or new Kilo WT?

    $295 verus $430... the Madison is at a small local shop that has it left over in XL size (my size) so will get rid of it cheap. I had it narrowed down to the WT, but then this local deal came up on the Madison.

    I'm not super into the world of SS/FG, i just want to ride one. I kinda get the vibe Scwinn isn't the coolest ever, but it looks to be solid.

    Then again Mercier is a chinese special.

    Any thoughts? Thanks guys
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    $295 for a Madison seems like a damn good deal to me. If you don't buy it, let me know so I can!

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    The madison is a great bike. The price is right, so take it.
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    What's less "cool" about the Schwinn than any other off-the-rack fixed-gear?

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    Nothing at all. A friend of mine has one...nice looking bike and it's sturdy as all hell.

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    Get the schwinn, the fork is nice.

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    I have both. I say get the Schwinn.

    Why, overall quality and feel.
    Kilo TT uses SR brakes, Schwinn needs a LR in front.

    Schwinn uses a more common 27.2 post, unless you get the 27.0 size. The Kilo TT is 26.8. 27.0 still easier to fin in nicer posts.



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    Nice Schwinn
    It's so classy looking

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    I love the Schwinn. I have a kilo TT myself, but for 300 you can't go wrong with a madison. The straight fork is a beaut.

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    Two things that make the Madison a very cool
    bike, 1) the name and 2) the color -- even if these
    have little to do with the bike itself and a lot to
    do with the American and bicycling heritage it
    carries... by way of Taiwan.

    (both these are reposts, but I love this stuff, so indulge me )

    The Name



    Schwinn orginally introduced the Madison in 1985, naming
    the track bike after 'Madison' racing, a form of
    team-track-cycle-racing born at Madison Square Gardens
    at the turn of the last century.

    The current Madison Square Gardens is the fourth building
    to carry that name and it sits actually about a mile from its
    original site, where the first "Gardens" not only had gardens...
    but had been designed specifically for... cycling.

    Madison (team) racing bypassed regulations outlawing single-man
    racing... which had become gladiatoral: spectators paid to
    watch lone cyclists compete past exhaustion until they
    literally fell over on the side of the track. In place of
    watching individual cyclists self-destruct, the new team event
    at the Gardens could go on 24 hours a day, evolving into a
    6-day race format.


    Madison Square Gardens became synonymous with
    cycling... and particularly with these new team races.

    In the post-depression mailaise, The Madisons, as they
    were called, attracted celebrities, wagering and buzz.

    To this day, Madison racing is an Olympic sport.
    The Men's Madison at the 2008 Summer Olympics was held
    at the Laoshan Velodrome in Beijing. A Madison race now last
    between a half an hour and an hour.

    Because America popularized Madison style racing, some countries called it
    Americana
    racing. This may explain the near red, white and blue color
    schemes both Schwinn Madisons wore at their respective 1985
    and 2007 introductions.

    So:

    The Schwinn Madison took it's name from the Madison Races:



    Madison Races took their name from Madison Square Gardens:



    Madison Square Gardens took it's name from it's original location
    adjacent to Madison Square at the intersection of 5th, Broadway and 23rd:



    Madison Square took its name from a small cottage that
    had been built on the site in 1839. The cottage was a lodge
    and way-station at the northern-most point for departing
    or entering New York City -- the road leading northward
    out of the city became Madison Avenue:



    Madison Cottage was named after the recently deceased
    fourth president, James Madison, "Father of the Constitution."






    The Color:

    Flickr has a GROUP for Old Black and White Cycling Photos. Read the caption below:



    The caption: Top German six day riders Gustav Kilian and Heinz Vopel circa
    1938 rode for Durkopp. This is a postcard image. My father Charles Siple was
    employed track-side by Kilian and Vopel in 1938. Jerseys were robins-egg blue
    made of silk...


    Just like Schwinn's early Opaque Blue, aka Sky Blue which was used on a LOT of Schwinn's
    from Super Sports to Varsity to Paramounts. The color has a historic racing legacy, and
    would easily describe the blue of the 2008 Schwinn Madison, and explains why in 2008 Schwinn
    called the color "Old School Blue:"

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    Quote Originally Posted by TXBDan View Post
    Then again Mercier is a chinese special.

    Any thoughts? Thanks guys
    Both are Taiwanese specials.
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    because physics has more street cred than tarckstars.

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    My Maddy.
    You see, their morals, their code...it's a bad joke, dropped at the first sign of trouble. They're only as good as the world allows them to be. I'll show you. When the chips are down, these...These "civilized" people...they'll eat each other. See, I'm not a monster. I'm just ahead of the curve

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    I would get the Madison, I LOVE MY MADISON FRAME!

    My 08 Madison


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    nice one!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TXBDan View Post
    Then again Mercier is a chinese special.
    Not exactly, but get the Madison, unless you plan to use wide tires.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mihlbach View Post
    but get the Madison, unless you plan to use wide tires.
    How wide? 28s fit with room.
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    For that price, definitely the Madison.
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    Quote Originally Posted by triple8sol View Post
    for that price, definitely the madison.
    +1

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    i'm fond of neither but if i had to choose i'd go w/ the madisonne

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    this was mine....
    probably miss it more than any bike i ever sold.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikewoodkozar View Post
    I would get the Madison, I LOVE MY MADISON FRAME!

    My 08 Madison

    love that thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cy trivialities View Post
    love that thing.
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    Left NYC and moved back to Philly, now i am stuck with an ironic user name

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    cool thanks guys. i went to look at the Madison today and it was a lot nicer than i was picturing. rode and fit great. looked nicer in person as well. slick bike.

    so i got it. woot. rode it just a little and did some fiddling. i had to move the aero levers up proper so i ended up using some yellow bar wrap i had kicking around. yellow on the blue bike is pretty nice. i can't wait till tomorrow so i can go on a long test ride.


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    Thanks guys it was a blast to build up and even more fun to ride, sorry about the thread jacking, lol

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