Pogliaghi Garage Sale Find!
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Pogliaghi Garage Sale Find!
I'm new to these forums, need serious help and don’t know where to start.
I haven’t raced or been on a track bike in over twenty years; professional and family life took over and I’m fantasizing about taking this to the local velodrome after I bring her back from the dead.
SN: 9050. When was this frame built? Is the color correct for the period? (It's pretty obvious that it's a repaint.) Are the parts original? Are they NR or Super record? How do you tell? Are the cranks, stem, seat-post and handlebars correct for the age of the bike? The hubs don’t have any markings, any ideas on manufacturer? Where do I obtain track sew ups these days? If I repaint, what colors were available when serial No: 9050 was manufactured? Who should re-paint it? Where do I get period Pogliaghi stickers? Etc, etc. etc Any Help would be greatly appreciated.
I haven’t raced or been on a track bike in over twenty years; professional and family life took over and I’m fantasizing about taking this to the local velodrome after I bring her back from the dead.
SN: 9050. When was this frame built? Is the color correct for the period? (It's pretty obvious that it's a repaint.) Are the parts original? Are they NR or Super record? How do you tell? Are the cranks, stem, seat-post and handlebars correct for the age of the bike? The hubs don’t have any markings, any ideas on manufacturer? Where do I obtain track sew ups these days? If I repaint, what colors were available when serial No: 9050 was manufactured? Who should re-paint it? Where do I get period Pogliaghi stickers? Etc, etc. etc Any Help would be greatly appreciated.
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oh man if i saw a track frame in a garage sale i would probably freak out, can't really help you identifying but nice find
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yes try C&V.
hubs appear to be campy high flange.
If you are planning to keep it as a street rider, you may want to consider rebuilding the hubs into clinchers for practicality. The classic rendezvous website may have more info.
hubs appear to be campy high flange.
If you are planning to keep it as a street rider, you may want to consider rebuilding the hubs into clinchers for practicality. The classic rendezvous website may have more info.
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1979 raleigh track
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1989 Schwinn Paramount OS
1980 Mclean/Silk Hope Sport Touring
1983 Bianchi pista
1976 Fuji Feather track
1979 raleigh track
"I've consulted my sources and I'm pretty sure your derailleur does not exist"
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What did you pay for that thing?
Man, I agree, I'd crap if I found a track frame in my size at a garage sale. Did they pitch it off as junk and price it as such?
Man, I agree, I'd crap if I found a track frame in my size at a garage sale. Did they pitch it off as junk and price it as such?
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I think NR and SR were road designations, and that Campagnolo's Record Pista didn't have NR/SR distinctions, and didn't really vary much until the C-Record (/Corsa Record) group in the 90s (?).
For Pog serial numbers, go here:
https://www.classicrendezvous.com/Ita...al_numbers.htm
For decals, try these links:
https://www.classicrendezvous.com/ClassicRe.htm
Needless to say, that's a pretty damn awesome find. the PSM stamp indicates that it was built while Sante Pogliaghi oversaw the production, and is considered to be higher quality and more desirable than the frames built after Pogliaghi was sold to Rossin and then Basso. the PSM stands for Pogliaghi, Sante Milano (the frames were built in Milan).
My Pog, done with Zeus, Campy, and Cinelli:
For Pog serial numbers, go here:
https://www.classicrendezvous.com/Ita...al_numbers.htm
For decals, try these links:
https://www.classicrendezvous.com/ClassicRe.htm
Needless to say, that's a pretty damn awesome find. the PSM stamp indicates that it was built while Sante Pogliaghi oversaw the production, and is considered to be higher quality and more desirable than the frames built after Pogliaghi was sold to Rossin and then Basso. the PSM stands for Pogliaghi, Sante Milano (the frames were built in Milan).
My Pog, done with Zeus, Campy, and Cinelli:
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Norskagent, I'm trying to bring it back to it's original glory, so I'll be sticking to the sew-ups. Thanks for the input though, I may consider buying a separate set of rims with clinchers and adding a brake if I do take her around the hood.
Yo! Paid USD 200.- Don't know if that's a good price or not? Any idea?
Yo! Paid USD 200.- Don't know if that's a good price or not? Any idea?
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I assume the front fork is not drilled to accept a brake? If so you should leave it that way (imo). Options then are to use a different drilled fork, or use a clamp-on front brake (what I would do), or ride brakeless.
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1976 Fuji Feather track
1979 raleigh track
"I've consulted my sources and I'm pretty sure your derailleur does not exist"
1989 Schwinn Paramount OS
1980 Mclean/Silk Hope Sport Touring
1983 Bianchi pista
1976 Fuji Feather track
1979 raleigh track
"I've consulted my sources and I'm pretty sure your derailleur does not exist"
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And while I think of it, there are a couple of nice features about Campag Pista cranks you should be aware of:
First, the female backing nut for the chainring fixing bolts will press-fit into the back of the spider. This means that when you unscrew the fixing bolt, the backing nut stays attached to the crank. Very convenient as you don't need the dumb tool (that always slips anyway) to hold the nut in place. If you ever get replacement chainring fixing bolts by Sugino, they will not do this. I believe the old Suntour track cranks had this feature as well.
Second, you will note that the chainring fixing bolts themselves allow the 5mm allen key to go all the way thru the bolt. This allows you to stack all five bolts onto a 5mm Campag allen wrench. Makes for real fast chainring changes once you get used to the technique. For some reason, nobody else does this. So that's the reason for the "pregnant" section of the Campag 5mm wrench - to act as a stop for up to 5 bolts, and to let you twirl the wrench for faster threading and unthreading.
Luis
First, the female backing nut for the chainring fixing bolts will press-fit into the back of the spider. This means that when you unscrew the fixing bolt, the backing nut stays attached to the crank. Very convenient as you don't need the dumb tool (that always slips anyway) to hold the nut in place. If you ever get replacement chainring fixing bolts by Sugino, they will not do this. I believe the old Suntour track cranks had this feature as well.
Second, you will note that the chainring fixing bolts themselves allow the 5mm allen key to go all the way thru the bolt. This allows you to stack all five bolts onto a 5mm Campag allen wrench. Makes for real fast chainring changes once you get used to the technique. For some reason, nobody else does this. So that's the reason for the "pregnant" section of the Campag 5mm wrench - to act as a stop for up to 5 bolts, and to let you twirl the wrench for faster threading and unthreading.
Luis
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And while I think of it, there are a couple of nice features about Campag Pista cranks you should be aware of:
First, the female backing nut for the chainring fixing bolts will press-fit into the back of the spider. This means that when you unscrew the fixing bolt, the backing nut stays attached to the crank. Very convenient as you don't need the dumb tool (that always slips anyway) to hold the nut in place. If you ever get replacement chainring fixing bolts by Sugino, they will not do this. I believe the old Suntour track cranks had this feature as well.
Second, you will note that the chainring fixing bolts themselves allow the 5mm allen key to go all the way thru the bolt. This allows you to stack all five bolts onto a 5mm Campag allen wrench. Makes for real fast chainring changes once you get used to the technique. For some reason, nobody else does this. So that's the reason for the "pregnant" section of the Campag 5mm wrench - to act as a stop for up to 5 bolts, and to let you twirl the wrench for faster threading and unthreading.
Luis
First, the female backing nut for the chainring fixing bolts will press-fit into the back of the spider. This means that when you unscrew the fixing bolt, the backing nut stays attached to the crank. Very convenient as you don't need the dumb tool (that always slips anyway) to hold the nut in place. If you ever get replacement chainring fixing bolts by Sugino, they will not do this. I believe the old Suntour track cranks had this feature as well.
Second, you will note that the chainring fixing bolts themselves allow the 5mm allen key to go all the way thru the bolt. This allows you to stack all five bolts onto a 5mm Campag allen wrench. Makes for real fast chainring changes once you get used to the technique. For some reason, nobody else does this. So that's the reason for the "pregnant" section of the Campag 5mm wrench - to act as a stop for up to 5 bolts, and to let you twirl the wrench for faster threading and unthreading.
Luis
If only the cranks on my racing bike had such features. Damn! Those are the small clever things that I like.
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Guys, Thanks for the wealth of info. I removed the bottom bracket and head set today and was hoping to find remnants of the original paint job, unfortunately not the case. Queerpunk, What serial number does your bike carry? Who did your paint job? I contacted Cycleart today and they want $500 +++ for the paint work. With stickers, shipping and handling it'll set me back a cool One thousand U.S. Clams, any bright ideas? Looking for input on period colors? Any preferences? I'm open to suggestions.
Thanks again guys, your help thus-far has been invaluable.
Thanks again guys, your help thus-far has been invaluable.