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Old 09-22-09, 10:13 AM   #1
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headphone/helmet combo

so I like music when I ride. Safety issues aside does anyone know a good cheap pair of headphones that will fit under a helmet? I was thinking something like this ?
Ear buds won't stay in so I need something with an adjustable band --
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Screw "safety issues aside." I'll be that guy. DON'T ****ING RIDE WITH HEADPHONES.

Off the bike, however, look for good earbuds with changeable tips so you can find something that properly fits your ears. Lots to choose from, I'd go for higher-end Koss or Shure, but that's just personal preference. Also, dig around at head-fi.org as there's more good info there than you could ever use.
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If you can fit full size headphones under your helmet, your helmet probably doesn't fit properly dude.
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I ride with these every night and they stay in pretty well:

http://www.amazon.com/JVC-HAFX66R-Ai.../dp/B000UNVNJY

And being the in-ear kind you don't need to blast them quite so loud, so you get a bit more of the ambient coming from the outside.

That said, I only wear headphones at night, not during the day. During the day you can't see headlights coming up behind you, so being able to hear helps.
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Screw "safety issues aside." I'll be that guy. DON'T ****ING RIDE WITH HEADPHONES.
truth. before i ever see a car, i hear it.
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If you can fit full size headphones under your helmet, your helmet probably doesn't fit properly dude.
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Riding around with headphones under your helmet is markedly less safe than riding around with no helmet.
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Not looking to rehash that endless "safety debate"
let's assume we won't convince each other.

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If you can fit full size headphones under your helmet, your helmet probably doesn't fit properly dude.
right but I'm not looking for full size headphones. see link. I bet you could fit those under a properly fitted helmet. but then again that's why I'm asking.


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I ride with these every night and they stay in pretty well:

http://www.amazon.com/JVC-HAFX66R-Ai.../dp/B000UNVNJY
cool, I'll take a look --
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In all seriousness, though, dig around on head-fi. So much knowledge there it's absurd. I'd be surprised if you couldn't find a cycling-related headphone thread there.
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I just duct tape my house speakers to the outside of my helmet. No worries.
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Riding around with headphones under your helmet is markedly less safe than riding around with no helmet.
And "Unsubstantiated Claim of the Day" goes to...

I mean, what you're saying might even be true. But with all the italics and "markedly" and whatnot, you're trying to be a lot more definitive than you rightfully should be.

I think riding at night with headphones in at a reasonable volume is much safer than riding with no helmet under the same conditions.
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It's probably safer to avoid an accident with no helmet than getting into an accident with a helmet.
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It's probably safer to avoid an accident with no helmet than getting into an accident with a helmet.
But you have to prove that headphones increase the likelihood of an accident enough to outweigh the benefits of a helmet in the event that an accident occurs. I don't think headphones increase the likelihood of an accident that much.



It's a lot like saying "going over the speed limit is more dangerous than not wearing a seatbelt".
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You didn't just compare a safety belt with a foam bicycle helmet.

If you're going to wear your headphones, keep the volume very low, which is something I don't see many cyclists do.
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You didn't just compare a safety belt with a foam bicycle helmet.
Are you familiar with the concept of "analogy"

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black:white::up:down does not imply white=down.
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I saw some guy riding down the sidewalk (not the street) the other day, tons of tattos and the big cover the entire ear/audiophile headphones on. He looked like he was smirking to himself about how "cool" he looked as his personal soundtrack to his life overlayed the scenary he was taking in. The image taken as a whole made me want to slap him silly.
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Are you familiar with the concept of "analogy"

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black:white::up:down does not imply white=down.

That's a bad analogy for this situation. Lowering a human sense is not the same as having less of a reaction time to avoid an accident. Also, there is a rediculous difference between the safety of a seat belt and helmet.

Let's just say if you're going to do it, go over the speedlimit or wear a headphone, be reasonable.
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in canal earphones.

they're about the only thing that block out the wind buffet noise.
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I don't listen while I ride, yadda yadda yadda
but i do have a pair of those sony headphones and I realllllly love 'em.
I've got these though

http://www.amazon.com/Sony-MDR-W08L-...3646622&sr=1-3
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Let's just say if you're going to do it, go over the speedlimit or wear a headphone, be reasonable.
Exactly. Both wearing headphones and speeding can be incredibly dangerous if you do them beyond reason.
If you're reasonable, though, both can be quite safe.

What an awesome analogy... it works on like, every level. I could so ace the SATs right now.
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I don't listen while I ride, yadda yadda yadda
but i do have a pair of those sony headphones and I realllllly love 'em.
I've got these though

http://www.amazon.com/Sony-MDR-W08L-...3646622&sr=1-3
sweet -- do they fit under a helmet ??
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Exactly. Both wearing headphones and speeding can be incredibly dangerous if you do them beyond reason.
If you're reasonable, though, both can be quite safe.

What an awesome analogy... it works on like, every level. I could so ace the SATs right now.
You apparently don't know what an analogy is, my last comment wasn't one. Good job.

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You apparently don't know what an analogy is, my last comment wasn't one. Good job.
I was commenting on how the awesomeness of my original speeding/headphones analogy was reinforced by our agreement that both speeding and headphone usage are relative factors and not absolutes. It isn't just that you wear headphones, it's that you wear them and listen to them too loud; it isn't just that you exceed the speed limit, it's that you go faster than conditions allow.

Again, what an awesome analogy [my original statement was]... it works on like, every level. I could so ace the SATs right now.


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speeding and headphone usage are relative factors and not absolutes. It isn't just that you wear headphones, it's that you wear them and listen to them too loud; it isn't just that you exceed the speed limit, it's that you go faster than conditions allow.
take home lesson ^^

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aww... for a second there I thought you guys had finally reached some middle ground of this thing --
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sweet -- do they fit under a helmet ??
I don't have a helmet, but they do fit nice and snug under a hat.
I know they're only like 9 bucks, but I think they sound great.
I can't recommend them enough.

The one you linked is probably better for biking though, since it has that little volume control switch on it, the ones I linked don't have that.
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Honestly, I see tons of people wearing headphones when I am traveling back and forth between Beaverton and Portland, and most of those people have no idea what is going on around them. All of them continually look straight ahead, never being conscious of cars, even through intersections, which is a terrible idea. These same people also move at the pace of a slug, though.
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