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Old 09-24-09, 01:40 PM   #26
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isn't that what the phantom cross uno is for? Long reach calipers are fine on the road, but give em mud, and bad things happen.
Ah, my bad. I hadn't seen one, I just assumed they put cantis on it.
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Old 09-24-09, 01:47 PM   #27
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Realized that without a shoe on the pedal the toe overlap really doesn't show well. Here are two pics with a shoe. Moved the fender mount to the front of the fork, which reduced the overlap greatly. Not too big of a deal, but like I said it limits the amount of fender coverage you get.



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Realized that without a shoe on the pedal the toe overlap really doesn't show well. Here are two pics with a shoe. Moved the fender mount to the front of the fork, which reduced the overlap greatly. Not too big of a deal, but like I said it limits the amount of fender coverage you get.



what a buzz kill. I can handle a little toe but dude that's just ugly.
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Old 09-24-09, 04:56 PM   #29
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I may be alone on this, but I'd much rather have a frame that handles well than a frame that has no toe clip overlap.
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Most frames seem to have at least a little toe overlap. I knew it looked kind of bad last night, but I was pretty surprised when I almost flipped this morning when taking a turn at low speed. If riding fixed it could be a pretty big problem. Like I said, though, moving the mounting tab to the front of the fork eliminated the worse of the overlap (at the cost of some fender coverage). Not a deal breaker as far as I'm concerned. Not sure what it would be like with toe clips, though. Clipless, I assume, gives a bit more clearance since it is just a shoe.
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Realized that without a shoe on the pedal the toe overlap really doesn't show well. Here are two pics with a shoe. Moved the fender mount to the front of the fork, which reduced the overlap greatly. Not too big of a deal, but like I said it limits the amount of fender coverage you get.



You must have giant feet, I have no toe overlap what so ever on the second smallest frame.
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Old 09-24-09, 09:45 PM   #32
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I think part of it is the angle of the picture which makes it look like more toe overlap than it really is.
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Old 09-24-09, 11:02 PM   #33
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The angle of the pic may possibly make it look worse than it really is. Not a professional by any means. All and all I think it is a solid bike and I'm happy I picked it up. Like I've said before, mount the fender with the mounting bracket in front of the fork and it will likely be fine. Not trying to dissuade anyone from buying one.

Notwithstanding, I almost went over the bars today when I took a tight turn at a lower speed in stopped traffic. Something I have done on my crosscheck with 32s and a front fender multiple times without issue, and something I would rather not have happen ever again. The toe overlap is definitely there, whether the amateur pic I took makes it look worse than it really is or not. It's not like I set the fender up in a radical or strange way. Just something to look out for when someone is setting one up--especially if the person is going to run it fixed.
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I would suggest either #4 or 5....6 might give you clearance problems.

I hope you do realize that those tires are mostly all 1/10th scale RC car tires... tiny
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wow! you're right. crazy.
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I'm seriously considering getting one of these. I mainly ride my cyclocross bike everywhere, but it would be nice to have a bike for just riding around town and I also think it'd be great for riding on the rollers when I can't ride outside!

Looking forward to seeing more real-life pics, especially of the larger frame sizes. So if any of you 6' tall guys/gals get one, post some pics!
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also interested in input and pics of larger size frames! thinking about either the 56cm or 59cm revolution red...i'm 6'1", approx 31.5" inseam. the more i look at this bike the better it seems...
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Yeah, it's either get one of these or get a used bianchi san jose (which can also take wide tires and has canti brakes).
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Well, I just sold my bike, a Redline 925 (for $425...wtf was that person thinking?!?!) and I ordered the smallest Kilo with the money from the sale. I couldn't decide between the 49 or the 53...I suppose I'll see once it gets here how it fits. I'll post some pics too and all that jazz.
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I'll post some pics too and all that jazz.
Yeah...the "be all, end all Kilo WT thread" should probably contain some pics.
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Hmm, weird, I thought there were some pics further up...
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I meant of more than one guy's bike.........
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Ok, well, glad to oblige...one my bike gets here.
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Most frames seem to have at least a little toe overlap. I knew it looked kind of bad last night, but I was pretty surprised when I almost flipped this morning when taking a turn at low speed. If riding fixed it could be a pretty big problem. ...e.
Rohmen,
What size frame is your WT? I'm considering one for year round commuting (also in Chicago) but this toe overlap issue is a bit of a concern. On the commute every once in while one has to turn quickly at low speed...
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Here is my Kilo WT, I really love this bike!
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Well, I'll be danged. I didn't even know this thread existed. Well, I might as well add mine.

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Hi TejanoTrackie!
That is an awesome looking Kilo! Do you find the chain tensioner very useful? I have been thinking about adding one but cant decide if it would be useful or not. What brand is the one you have on your bike? I also intend to upgrade my stem and bars, yours look great! When you took of the stock bars and stem were they very heavy? I have been debating if they are really that bad, and weather new ones will make any difference. I do think I would like a shorter stem like yours so i'm not leaning over so far. I have a 56 inch frame and it is on the cusp of being to large for me. Great looking red bike!
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Hi TejanoTrackie!
That is an awesome looking Kilo! Do you find the chain tensioner very useful? I have been thinking about adding one but cant decide if it would be useful or not. What brand is the one you have on your bike? I also intend to upgrade my stem and bars, yours look great! When you took of the stock bars and stem were they very heavy? I have been debating if they are really that bad, and weather new ones will make any difference. I do think I would like a shorter stem like yours so i'm not leaning over so far. I have a 56 inch frame and it is on the cusp of being to large for me. Great looking red bike!
Thanks ! The chain tensioner is a Surly Tuggnut, and it isn't really necessary but does make it easier to adjust the chain tension, and once adjusted you don't have to re-adjust when removing and replacing the wheel. It also protects the frame paint when tightening the axle nut. The stock bar and stem were not especially heavy, and I changed them simply because they were too wide and long for me. The bar is a Deda Elementi Piega and the stem is a Deda Elementi Logo. The Deda bar is more comfortably shaped in the drops area than the stock bar was.
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Awesome! I really appreciate the info on the chain tensioner, the other info helped me as well. Very cool set up.
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Slow start, but this thread's gettin pretty good. Wish the guy who had the badass WT with fatties and double Aerospokes was still around.
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