Was wondering if anyone has an opinion. Up until a few days ago the bikedirect website was boasting that these were the same bike. Now it says comparable. Was thinking that it would not be to far fetched to say that both these bikes are built in the same factory. Seeing as it is not unheard of for Bikesdirecct to sell surly's. With the money I w0uld save on the bike, I could get a powder coat and no one would be none the wiser. Other then you the interwebs.