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    what am i doing wrong?

    i want to get as much feedback as i can on a build that i have planned. i recently locked down a job, and so now that i have a source of income i'm going to start building up a bike.

    leader 725tr 2010 frame + aluminum steerer carbon fork + fsa zs headset
    mavic open pro to formula from bicyclewheelwarehouse
    miche primato bottom bracket + s75 crankset
    EAI cog + DA lockring
    EA90 stem. 1 pair bullhorns, 1 pair drops.
    easton EA70 carbon seatpost + specialized toupe saddle
    shimano PD-R540 road clipless pedals.

    so, what is wrong with this? tell me whatever changes you would make to my bike. i want to build up from a frameset, so please don't advise me to just get a kilo TT. i also want to do track racing next season, so this will probably be used for that as well. i don't care about barspins or any of that.. i plan to ride this bike through the city a lot (20 mi+ daily), and possibly use it for long distances (STP). that's all.

    please: if you don't like something suggest an alternative. if you don't like the ****ty aluminum used by leader, don't just say "steel is real", suggest a better frameset to buy in the same price range. i do trust your guys judgement and so i want you to make as many suggestions as you can. i know i made this thread already, but i figured this would be better than resurrecting the old one.

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    Sounds much nicer than my ride, but I'll give input on the saddle. I have a toupe saddle, and I really like it. My advice for you is to go and get fitted for one. Your LBS should have a gel pad you sit on, and your 'sit bones' leave an impression in the gel. They then measure this and give you the appropriate width. This saddle is very light, and has minimal padding, so proper fit is key for comfort. I got mine fitted, and it feels great. IMO, something as important as a saddle warrants this, even though I ended up paying a bit more getting it from a LBS rather than online.

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    I am not a fan of:
    -leader frame - if you're on the west coast a better aluminum track-raceable frame/fork shouldn't be hard to find for around $400-600
    -miche bb - a bit of a headache and tend to wear out fast, see if you can find a cheap campy bb that's the right length for the 75's
    -Shimano SPD pedals - I'm personally an ATAC fan, but if you want to be racing track I'd look into getting a pair of road shoes and pedals.

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    thanks fixedinIA, will do.

    astronomical: OK on 1 and 2, but the SPD pedals that i mentioned are SPD-SL..aka LOOK cleats. so, road cleats.

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    Leader ain't no leader
    Get a better frame!


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    Posting in SSFG for help.
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    ^what he said. this is a haters forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by luno-pdx View Post
    easton EA70 carbon seatpost + specialized toupe saddle
    The EA70 line is all alloy components. That's what the A means.
    1997 Vitali track, 1986 Cilo Swiss road, 2006 KHS Flite 100, 2009 top-secret track bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Exit. View Post
    The EA70 line is all alloy components. That's what the A means.
    whoops, meant EC70. yeah i need a different frameset.. if anyone can recommend a different frameset please do.


    (and yes this is totally a hater's forum)

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    Bianchi Super Pista, you know you love it.

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    OK, seriously though, get this. This is a nice frame (you'll have to completely redo your component list though, and probably get a few more jobs):
    http://www.wrenchscience.com/Colnago...es/Frames.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by LoRoK View Post
    Bianchi Super Pista, you know you love it.
    Well you can always take a leader aero SS frame and then remove the decals and no one can tell a difference from a de - logoed super pista....

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    I don't get all the leader hate on bike forums. I've seen and ridden several and they're fine. I know of alot of people who ride them and are faster than you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LoRoK View Post
    OK, seriously though, get this. This is a nice frame (you'll have to completely redo your component list though, and probably get a few more jobs):
    http://www.wrenchscience.com/Colnago...es/Frames.html
    man! it's a cool bike and thanks and all, but if you think i'd planned to pay $2,549 on a frameset, why would my original choice be a leader?

    anyway i have a lead on a GTB frameset so i will probably end up getting that.

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    For slightly cheaper (plus free shipping), you could get the Motobecane team Track frameset: http://www.bikesdirect.com/products/...team_track.htm

    It's basically the same as a Fuji Track Comp/Pro, which IMO looks a lot better than the Leader alu frames. If I were to get a Leader though, it would def be one of the new steel ones (722TR I believe?)

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    Get a fuji track comp/pro or what ever the hell there called now, or Felt tk2 or tk3 or the tk1 if your really balln You don't want leader creak!
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    lol i was considering the fuji track comp (2010 version of the 2009 pro) or an old FTP. but i think i'll just end up getting the GTB.. if you guys can recommend any other framesets please do

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    I hope you're talking about one of the original GTBs, not the crappy reissue ones.

    If you do in fact have a lead on an original GTB, then by all means, go for it. Those are sweet frames.
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    They don't make gtb's (made in taiwan) anymore nor the kinesis (made in usa)which is ****ing baller!! My friend just traded a tk2 frameset for one soo badass. Your prob refering to the gutterball
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    yeah, recently our local velodrome sold off a bunch of GTB's for $350 each. yes, GTBs, not gutterballs. so a lot of people have them and one guy's selling one. my friend got one but i didn't.

    by the way, there was the GTB and the Pulse. the Pulse is made with easton kinesis tubing, but there was no bike called the kinesis. the GTB is just the cheaper version.

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    If you insist on an aero aluminum frame on the street, go for the FTP or Moto Track Team or TK3 framesets as some people mentioned above. If you're open to non-aero and/or steel, then you have unlimited options. I know I wouldn't mind having a GTB!
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    the visp frame on ebay surprised the hell outta me

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    triple triangle ftw

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