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Old 11-17-09, 03:26 AM   #1
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what track bike has clearance for 26x2.5" wheels/slicks

i want to make my own amaro supermotard...
i liked the kilo wt, but 2.5" is too wide.

what else is there?
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Old 11-17-09, 03:50 AM   #2
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track bike with 26" rims? i think you are looking for 29" right? 29"=700c
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hiya Dino,

nope, 26 + 2.5" wide mtb slicks would hopefully equal the same outer diameter as a 700c wheel + tire (see pic above)

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It would be nice if people realized that a fixie and a track bike are not the same. There may be 26" wheeled fixie bikes that resemble track bikes but there are NO 26" wheeled TRACK bikes.
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http://surlybikes.com/frames/pugsley_frame/
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why not get a hard tail mtb frame and put a rigid fork on it?

Maxxis hook worms look sweet though, although they wear out kind quickly.

I had a pair of them on my old DH bike for city riding!



And yes, they are 24" wheels! They were awesome!
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Old 11-17-09, 09:35 AM   #7
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If you really want one, contact the builder/rider of the one in the picture.
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If you really want one, contact the builder/rider of the one in the picture.
I'd like to spend under $1000-1200

Amaro has been contacted by many on a lot of the cycling boards and is not selling them...
just for relativity sake, they have a similar bike (with fenders, lolafallata or something) that is going for $5500-6000
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It would be nice if people realized that a fixie and a track bike are not the same. There may be 26" wheeled fixie bikes that resemble track bikes but there are NO 26" wheeled TRACK bikes.
http://urbanvelo.org/amaro-bikes-sup...omment-page-1/

"Hence the inspiration for Amaro’s Supermotard—a track bike built to accept mountain bike wheels. The frame has true track bike geometry, and the 26″ wheels with 2.5″ slick mountain bike tires to achieve a wheel with roughly the same outside diameter as a 700c rim with a road bike tire."

obviously they didn't make it for the track...
let me clarify then, "track geometry/framework but with clearances to fit the select wheels"
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looking for more of a track if not road (but with a top tube that is parallel to the ground like a track bike)
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I'd like to spend under $1000-1200
Good luck.

Why not just run drops and long seatpost on a mtb that is a size or two too small (to get the saddle to bar drop) if you don't want to spend the cash on a custom frame? (although, you might be able to get one with that price range) Or is the geometry what you are looking for?
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why not get a hard tail mtb frame and put a rigid fork on it?

Maxxis hook worms look sweet though, although they wear out kind quickly.

I had a pair of them on my old DH bike for city riding!
Hookworms last forever, the pair I had on my 24" DJ lasted 2 years and never flatted once, sold them with the bike.
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The only reason for 2 1/2 wide" tires is to ride in deep snow or sand like the Pugsley, and there's no way you can do this singlespeed and still ride on the road without spinning like crazy. Plus brakes won't reach when the wheel is much smaller than the frame is designed for. So this guy's design may look cool but there's a reason no one does this.

If you want an off-road singlespeed with drop bars, take a look at this:

http://vassagocycles.com/fisty.html

It can take 650B size wheels and take 45C/2" wide tires.
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wow that vassago is seriously amazing!
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nope, 26 + 2.5" wide mtb slicks would hopefully equal the same outer diameter as a 700c wheel + tire
FYI, 26x2.5" tire would have roughly the same outside diameter of a 700x32c. 26x2.25" would roughly equal 700x25c.

What exactly are you going for?
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really going for an Amaro Supermotard type build -

as for the brakes, I dont mind trying it out with coaster brakes (bad idea??)

i'm just so in love with the amaro motard..and would like to build/have one for $1k-1200

-btw that fisticuff is very cool!
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get a normal MTB that is designed for a long travel fork and then put on a nonsuspension corrected fork that will drop the front end and steepen the angles quite a bit
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The only reason for 2 1/2 wide" tires is to ride in deep snow or sand like the Pugsley, and there's no way you can do this singlespeed and still ride on the road without spinning like crazy.
Not true. Big fat tires also absorb quite a bit of shock. And GOOD big fat tires can roll really nicely. I have a fixed rigid 29er with 2.35 Schwalbe Big Apples that is about the most fun city bomber ever.

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Hookworms last forever, the pair I had on my 24" DJ lasted 2 years and never flatted once, sold them with the bike.
I never flatted, they are great tyres, but the fine bumpy tread wore smooth in the rear after a few months. Which wasn't a big deal though, but still....
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you're never going to find what you're looking for at the price point you want. there is simply not a market for this sort of thing outside of customized bikes.

you're best off buying a single speed mountain bike and tweaking the fit until you can get a more aggressive position.
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I have a Lugged Track-MTB Hybrid Frame I bought from its builder.

I don't think it has true track geo but the builder tried to make it as close as possible.

It has a 71 degree head tube, 73 seat tube, 50mm BB drop.

This was his setup - http://www.63xc.com/carloscruz/zmpurpose.htm

I have most of what I need to complete my build except for the wheelset.

The picture does nothing to show the awesome paint job.

I'll be using Conti Town & Country 26 x 1.9.

That Amaro frame is gorgeous but the absence of a seatpost is kind of weird - and that's just me.

To anyone who rides a Ti frame - how is the ride compared to Steel?
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really going for an Amaro Supermotard type build -

as for the brakes, I dont mind trying it out with coaster brakes (bad idea??)
i'm just so in love with the amaro motard..and would like to build/have one for $1k-1200
My attempt is definetly not a track geometry http://cafe.ee/~aif/fix/image001.jpg but its close enough Supermotard for my taste. I spent around $600. Front wheel was build by LBS and back is my humble attempt. Biggest expense is back-hub, DaBomb is not the cheapest 20mm front diskhub around. If you can aviod custom-made (or make it himself) frame, $1200 is really doable. And hookworms dosn't need anything more than rigid fork.

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My attempt is definetly not a track geometry http://cafe.ee/~aif/fix/image001.jpg but its close enough Supermotard for my taste. I spent around $600. Front wheel was build by LBS and back is my humble attempt. Biggest expense is back-hub, DaBomb is not the cheapest 20mm front diskhub around. If you can aviod custom-made (or make it himself) frame, $1200 is really doable. And hookworms dosn't need anything more than rigid fork.

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From here I'm swapping out for a stiff fork, shorter stem and dirt drop bars with long travel road levers for V-brakes.
Monster Cross!!! Currently running Micheline slicks and it's hella fast.
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i think you are going to be hard pressed to find a track/fixed/SS frame that is designed for 700c wheels that is going to fit 26's like that. i agree it would be better to find a frame that was designed for 26" wheels and just put drops on it and such.

look at how the fork and rear triangle bow out to accommodate those tires, no 700c (probably not even most cx frames) frames are going to do that

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