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Old 11-27-09, 09:01 PM   #1
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Help me price my bike

Hey guy and gals, im looking to sell this fixed gear, and I am having some trouble determining an asking price.

The mod is a 200(1?) KHS flite 100 yellow, 53cm square c-c. What makes this difficult, is there is a large (thumb-sized) dent on the top tube that I aquired about 18 mo. ago.

The frame is still perfectly aligned, and because it is cromo as far as I can tell the structural integrity is not comprimised (am i wrong on this????) Regardless I have put hundres of miles on this frame since the accident out of the road with a clipless setup and a rear aqua rack without any problems.

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Frame: 2003(Yellow) KHS flite 100 track frame size 53cm square c-c
Fork: Profile Design SC carbon blades/aluminum steerer
Rear wheel: 36 hole campagnolo omega anondized rim laced to IRO hub fixed/fixed
Cogset: 15t/18t surly
Bar: Syntace bullhorn 42cm
Saddle: Selle San Marco Regal
Pedals setup: MKS/MKS/Toshi single strap.
Crankset: Generic shimano 600 road. All 3/32

Also included are a fun set of chopped steel risers with tiny black bmx grips, not that those add any appreciable value.

LMK if you need to know any other components that go along with this build, I think the rest is pretty mundane.
Below are some copied+pasted links to my flickr account of pictures I took today:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/34107262@N03/4139226139/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/34107262@N03/4139222893/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/34107262@N03/4139222469/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/34107262@N03/4139983238/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/34107262@N03/4139221593/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/34107262@N03/4139225779/

**** rides like its on rails of course.

LMK what you guys think im pretty clueless when it comes to the market these days.
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Old 11-27-09, 09:06 PM   #2
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I asked my dad a similar question once. He said:

"Just price it at what you think is fair. A month from now, if you still have it, the price is too high. If you sold it, the price was too low."
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well, the dent is a problem. Only frames that get away w/ dents are NJS ones...

i would say ask for 300 and expect to get 250
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DAMN i was hoping for trey fitty
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sold complete, I'd say 200-300.
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ask for 350, you never know. I got 600 for a shoddy conversion. just make a good pitch. if you don't have a moral beef w/ it, cover the dent w/ a sticker or someting.
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ask for 350, you never know. I got 600 for a shoddy conversion. just make a good pitch. if you don't have a moral beef w/ it, cover the dent w/ a sticker or someting.
Some times I wish I was a shyster....

NIce score on teh conversion btw
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yeah, i personally wouldn't go so far as to cover up the dent, but I was just throwin the idea out there haha. Nothing wrong w/ a good sales pitch, though.
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You'd probably get more money parting out the entire bike then selling complete.
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The thing with craigslist/ebay is, make sure you mention the dent but dont go too far into it. Take good pictures but try not to take some fine shots of the bump.
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The thing with craigslist/ebay is, make sure you mention the dent but dont go too far into it. Take good pictures but try not to take some fine shots of the bump.
why delay the inevitable and waste peoples' time? If they are going to have a problem with the dent in pictures, they'll definitely have a problem with the dent in person. full disclosure is in everyone's best interest -- both the seller and the buyer.
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why delay the inevitable and waste peoples' time? If they are going to have a problem with the dent in pictures, they'll definitely have a problem with the dent in person. full disclosure is in everyone's best interest -- both the seller and the buyer.
Do you think people on craigslist mind the scratch? Okay, so maybe barely mentioning it isn't the best idea, but you get the idea.
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Do you think people on craigslist mind the scratch? Okay, so maybe barely mentioning it isn't the best idea, but you get the idea.
first of all, it's a dent not a scratch. second, I would mind the dent and so would most potential buyers. I would either not buy the bike...or I would counter-offer with a much lower price. I would even argue that someone might offer less for the bike if they showed up expecting a frame in a better condition and was disappointed than someone knew full well what they were coming to look at. One dick move begets another dick move.

and no, I dont get your idea.
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That looks like it spent the last 10 years in Bosnia! Damn!

You will have to be as frank and honest about it as possible. If I came to have a look and a "small dent" turned out to be that I would walk away immediately. And the rest of the frame is scratched up.
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That looks like it spent the last 10 years in Bosnia! Damn!

You will have to be as frank and honest about it as possible. If I came to have a look and a "small dent" turned out to be that I would walk away immediately. And the rest of the frame is scratched up.
for real
http://www.flickr.com/photos/3410726...n/photostream/

I would not expect too much money, honestly.
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for real
http://www.flickr.com/photos/3410726...n/photostream/

I would not expect too much money, honestly.
Well im gonna try to do what I can. The bike has seen plenty of ****ty winter miles.

Cosmetically, its in horrible shape. This will make it difficult to market.

Functionally, it doesnt ride any different then it did when it was new.
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im sure the bike is just fine structurally and that it is generally a fine bike, but I wouldnt expect to hit the jackpot. for what the small amount you can get for it, I'd just keep it and save money a bit longer if financing another bike is your plan. I'd rather have a reliable beater in the rotation than two or three hundred or whatever.

good luck to you, though.
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The thing with craigslist/ebay is, make sure you mention the dent but dont go too far into it. Take good pictures but try not to take some fine shots of the bump.
This should be a dealbreaker for anyone:



Have you ever stood on a soda or beer can, and tapped the sides with your fingers really quick? I'd part that bike out.
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there really should be an official how much is this worth thread.
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and That isn't a small dent
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You'd probably get more money parting out the entire bike then selling complete.
That's what I think too.

You can talk about how structurally sound it is and how it handles like it's on rails all you want, but the bottom line is: that's a pretty big dent. A buyer who is willing to pay the going price for a bike like yours will probably be looking for an undented one. I know I would.
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im sure the bike is just fine structurally and that it is generally a fine bike, but I wouldnt expect to hit the jackpot. for what the small amount you can get for it, I'd just keep it and save money a bit longer if financing another bike is your plan. I'd rather have a reliable beater in the rotation than two or three hundred or whatever.

good luck to you, though.
Ya i think that you're right on this one. I'll go ahead and put it on CL once or twice for a long shot, but if I can't get a decent chunk of change i'll keep it.

Funding another bike is the plan btw.
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This should be a dealbreaker for anyone:



Have you ever stood on a soda or beer can, and tapped the sides with your fingers really quick? I'd part that bike out.
Soda cans aren't made of steel
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Nobody said the dent was small
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Right in the first post, the OP described a "large (thumb-sized) dent".
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