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    My Black Friday in pictures

    so, as i mentioned in my last thread, i got my first FG as a gift from my lovely and generous girlfriend about a week ago. as of today, it had less than 20 miles on it.
    side note, i don't know for sure if the pictures will link properly, since i'm using a mobileme gallery. if they don't i'll switch to flickr.

    this is how it looked right after i got it. i've since removed the wheel decals (there were 18!)


    so i went out today for a ride, and i got a flat without any way to fix it. i stop into the closest shop - a shop that does NOT deal in FG bikes...in fact when i was shopping for one they asked "why would you want one?" i didn't have a choice, so i went in for a tube change. they threw the bike on a rack and clamped the seat post, scratching it through the clear coat and taking chunks out of the decals below the clearcoat.



    i asked the manager what he would do about this obvious negligence, and he said he didn't know what to do. he's not a bianchi dealer, so he can't even try to work something out with them. he took my info, and said we could talk about it tomorrow. i wanted to be reasonable, although i'm furious, so i agreed.

    i continued on my ride down to my new favorite shop - NYC Velo - to get a 17t cog. they also deal Independent Fabrication bikes, which i've never seen in person before. while waiting for them to throw the cog on, i got to sit there and look at this drool-er-iffic IF. they were cool about letting me just slowly grope the bike and its custom paint job. if i had the money....



    i then swung by the hardware store to get some nice heavy-duty screws. my apartment isn't very large but it's got three floors. weird, unique setup. Our original 2 bikes already occupy the only wall that has space for them. in an attempt to avoid filling every bit of usable space with my toys, i set up a rack to hang my bianchi (since it's the lightest bike) over a balcony we have in our bedroom that overlooks our den area.
    feel free to let me know if you thinks like utter lunacy, but it looks pretty solid.


    the gloves are there as a temporary solution to prevent the frame from being scratched.


    it's hanging about 12 feet above the floor.


    tomorrow i'm picking up a used set of rollers from a craigslist ad. i'm fairly sure that my bikes' wheelbases are compatible with the rollers, the only issue is how compatible my face will be with the floor when i fall off the rollers.

    happy thanksgiving to all.

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    Nice pics. Darn shame about the scratch.

    Nice bike and storage...

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    so, you've had two flats in two days? I assume this is true because of your previous thread.

    sounds you're not pumping to a high enough psi (pinch flat) or something is popping your tube...I'd get that taken care of before riding again.

    check your rim for any sharp edges or extruding spokes. I'd even replace the rim tape from the stock plastic stuff to velox, if you're getting mysterious punctures that are not caused by road debris.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bionnaki View Post
    so, you've had two flats in two days? I assume this is true because of your previous thread.
    sounds you're not pumping to a high enough psi (pinch flat) or something is popping your tube...I'd get that taken care of before riding again.
    check your rim for any sharp edges or extruding spokes. I'd even replace the rim tape from the stock plastic stuff to velox, if you're getting mysterious punctures that are not caused by road debris.
    this is actually the flat i had yesterday; i should have been clearer in the post. yesterday all the shops were closed, this morning was my first chance. i asked the dude who changed the flat if he saw what was wrong, he said it was a straight puncture, not a pinch flat. then again, this is the same guy who scratched my frame.

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    oh, and as an added bonus - turns out the stock 16t cog that came with the Bianchi was a dura-ace. i wasn't expecting that.

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    what shop scratched your bike? it's surprising that they clamp there with ANY bike.

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    well, frame scratches are inevitable. I wouldnt worry about it.

    get a patch kit and some tire levers.

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    Still, its not handy to have scratches on a new bianchi.

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    who cares? he'll have about 3 more scratches within the next week. and what is the shop going to do? give him a new frame? yeah right -- they dont care and they're obviously sloppy in their work. And I bet he strips the frame to 100% chrome in the next 3 months, anyways.

    If you want to "get back" at the shop, just never shop there again.

    chalk it up to not being able to fix a flat in the first place -- he should have just spent five bucks on a patch kit and two tire levers and did it himself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bionnaki View Post
    who cares? he'll have about 3 more scratches within the next week. and what is the shop going to do? give him a new frame? yeah right -- they dont care and they're obviously sloppy in their work. And I bet he strips the frame to 100% chrome in the next 3 months, anyways.
    If you want to "get back" at the shop, just never shop there again.
    chalk it up to not being able to fix a flat in the first place -- he should have just spent five bucks on a patch kit and two tire levers and did it himself.
    that's kind of a weird way to look at it. i should just accept the damage because it'll probably happen anyway - and in any event it's my fault for not fixing the tire myself?

    eh, i disagree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bionnaki View Post
    who cares? he'll have about 3 more scratches within the next week. and what is the shop going to do? give him a new frame? yeah right -- they dont care and they're obviously sloppy in their work. And I bet he strips the frame to 100% chrome in the next 3 months, anyways.

    If you want to "get back" at the shop, just never shop there again.

    chalk it up to not being able to fix a flat in the first place -- he should have just spent five bucks on a patch kit and two tire levers and did it himself.
    So you say its absolutely nothing to get any? You really don't think its fair he should get some kind of return for the scratch?

    Remember it's his first FG and he probably didn't mind the extra 10 dollars of getting a new tire, and so you can't really blame him on that one. Not everyone just has tire patches and levers either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xkillemallx16 View Post
    So you say its absolutely nothing to get any? You really don't think its fair he should get some kind of return for the scratch?
    Remember it's his first FG and he probably didn't mind the extra 10 dollars of getting a new tire, and so you can't really blame him on that one. Not everyone just has tire patches and levers either.
    i'm no stranger to working on my own stuff. i've done a ton of work on cars in the past. now, i don't really have much space in the apartment to properly work on a bike. and on the rare occasion that i need stuff done, i don't mind bringing it to a shop. an extra couple of bucks, maybe i build up some kind of a relationship with the shop, and - i would hope - avoid screwing things up and damaging the bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bionnaki View Post
    who cares? he'll have about 3 more scratches within the next week. and what is the shop going to do? give him a new frame?

    exactly. I get that it's a bummer to have a new bike get scratched by someone else but it's over--maybe they could have given you a free tube or something but just keep riding the thing and make it yours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xkillemallx16 View Post
    So you say its absolutely nothing to get any? You really don't think its fair he should get some kind of return for the scratch?

    Remember it's his first FG and he probably didn't mind the extra 10 dollars of getting a new tire, and so you can't really blame him on that one. Not everyone just has tire patches and levers either.

    Please type slower.

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    it's a shame that your frame got scratch by their negligence. they should have been more careful. but you have to remember, bicycles are supposed to be ridden, and when you ride your bicycle, scratches will in unavoidable. just think about them as added characteristics on your bike.

    i like your bike rack placement. i would maybe reenforce the railing and put one or two more screws on the rack just in case of gravity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Negative Force View Post
    exactly. I get that it's a bummer to have a new bike get scratched by someone else but it's over--maybe they could have given you a free tube or something but just keep riding the thing and make it yours.
    i have a hard time believing that anybody here would be fine having a brand new bike scratched by a bike store mechanic. especially considering that the store deals regularly in bikes far more expensive than mine. for chrissake, be careful with other people's stuff. they're supposed to make people WANT to come there, spend the extra money for EXPERT service.

    i don't expect them to buy me a new bike. if i were the owner, i'd offer a small store credit as a showing of good faith.

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    I would expect a minor scratch or two if I have someone else handle, ride, or work on my bike. Sucks about this scratch, but I wouldnt let it bother you. If they dented up your frame or scratched your paint significantly, I would have a different opinion.

    Trust me -- you'll have more scratches in no time, especially if you lock up on the street. Get used to it.

    A pump, patch kit, and levers do not take up any space in an apartment -- that's a silly excuse not to have these things. You'll save money, fix flats in 5 mins rather than waiting until the next day like you did, and you will avoid anyone else damaging your bike.

    unless you have a support team following you like you were a pro, self-sufficiency is a worthwhile objective.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Inertianinja View Post
    i have a hard time believing that anybody here would be fine having a brand new bike scratched by a bike store mechanic. especially considering that the store deals regularly in bikes far more expensive than mine. for chrissake, be careful with other people's stuff. they're supposed to make people WANT to come there, spend the extra money for EXPERT service.

    i don't expect them to buy me a new bike. if i were the owner, i'd offer a small store credit as a showing of good faith.
    well said man, yeah that's the least they can do. It's not your fault for not changing your own flat, that's for damn sure. You should get the repair stuff but I mean you've had the bike less than a week, people need to cut you a little slack.

    Something about new Pistas gettin scratched by shops.. I remember BianchiDave posted a few weeks ago the shop scratched up his new one too.

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    I hope you don't fall over the railing trying to take out your bike.

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    Okay here's how I see it. Every time someone comes to BF to post something like "omg shop scratched my new bike" I tell them to suck it up and not worry about it. Sure, it's a bummer, but you'll inevitably get used to your bike getting scratched and dinged if you do any real riding at all, and there are plenty of bigger things in life to worry about. You'll be happier in the end.

    Secondly, learn how to fix a flat. Yeah it can be a PITA sometimes but it's probably the most valuable skill to know as a cyclist next to actually knowing how to ride a bike. Tire levers and patch kits are dirt cheap, and fixing a flat doesn't actually take up that much room...probably as much room as the bike itself. I mean, I'm sure your apartment is small, but it's a pretty poor excuse for not learning and performing such an essential skill. You'll be happier in the end.

    I'm not trying to rag on you for taking your shiny new bike that your gf got you (she's a keeper) to the shop just to change a tube and being so pissed when it gets scratched. I mean, I probably would have done the same if I didn't know anything about bike wrenching, especially with such a nice bike. But in time, things are going to happen that you won't be able to do anything about and you'll need to learn to live with them. It'll come a little easier when the next scratch is your fault.

    Think of it this way...when your bike gets dinged up, at least that means you're riding the hell out of it, and that's the most important part, right?

    For the sake of being happy, cheers!

    EDIT: PS, your apartment looks awesome. In what part of NY do you live?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrvile View Post
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    EDIT: PS, your apartment looks awesome. In what part of NY do you live?
    i get what everyone's saying. i know how to fix a flat, just haven't actually bought any of the tools yet. two things, though:
    1- whether i can fix a flat is really irrelevant to the situation. imagine that the bike needed some maintenance that i could not easily perform at home. if the shop was going to scratch the bike, my reason for bringing it in doesn't matter.
    2- i'm sure you can understand that i'm not psyched to get "let this be a lesson to you" when something like this happens. on the other hand, it's an internet forum; these aren't known for empathy.
    needless to say, i'll be getting a 15mm socket and some tubes. i'll probably want some harder tires too; NYC streets are rough.
    but anyway. not the end of the world. just a scratch; didn't ruin the bike and certainly didn't affect the fun i had on today's ride.
    i would have been happier if it happened while i was riding the thing.


    thanks for the apartment comment - it's a weird 3-level "1 bedroom" on the upper east side. it's really like a studio split into 3 levels, with one 20-foot window a little balcony outside, and a little balcony upstairs. gotta credit my girlfriend with the find, it's definitely a unique space. i love it.

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    It wouldn't ruin my life but I'd be a little pissed. Actually...if it were my bike, I would have already stripped the clear coat/decals. It's good that you're not freaking out over it.

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    get airplane tape if you are worried about scratches. It works wonders, and you will never worry about your bike getting scratched again.

    http://www.convertape.com/protection-tape-168-p.asp

    I buy it when ever a get a new bike so I can keep that new bike smell.

    Some people like their bike looking all f'd up, others like it looking shiny and clean. If you do, then you will love this tape.

    (i may sound like a shill, it's just that for a few bucks, you can protect your paint job and not worry about leaning the bike against things, people knocking the bike and scratching the hell out of it. that sucks.)

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    You shouldn't have to buy any of the tools. Go back to the shop and have the store manager hook you up with nice tire levers (not plastic ones), a patch kit (self adhesive type), and a tube all for free in exchange for the scratch. It's like $25 worth of stuff, it's not going to cause the shop to suffer, and it's one of the most useful things you could get for free. See if you cant get a floor pump thrown in the mix too, but only if they're taking to the idea of getting things sorted out easy.

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    Look out. Impermanence and incompetence are ubiquitous!
    In NYC, sometimes I go a couple of months without a flat... Sometimes I get three a week. Get the tools! Have fun!


    P.S. -Is there only ONE screw in that bike rack? WTF?

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