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    Windsor The Hour or Single Speed Track Bike 2010 Motobecane Track

    From what I'm reading and from what I understand, the Motobecane track bike is a single speed with a flip flop hub, but does not have the fixed cog. The Windsor Hour on the other hand is set with both from the start. Is the Motobecane bike a better bike to go for and then upgrade or would I be better off going with the windsor hour? They are both at the same price point right, so I could go with either bike. I'm looking long term though on the frame and components for upgrading. I want to be able to ride fixed and freewheel.

    Thanks I appreciate it!

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    Will you be skidding or will you run 2 brakes?

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    Eventually skidding with an emergency oh ***** brake on the front end, but for now probably running 2 brakes freewheel, until I get the skidding down. How hard is the transition to fixed with 1 front brake from freewheel?
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    They both come with fixed gear cogs, but you'll probably want a new cog in either case anyway for an easier gear ratio. They have flip flop hubs meaning they can accept a freewheel on the other side, but they don't come with one.

    twelsch42 I don't really understand your question, skidding isn't a requirement for running 1 brake, as long as you're running fixed AND the brake is in the front, BUT both these bikes come with rear brake only (dumb) but they can be made to work on the front with a problem solver's nut.

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    running freewheel you need 2 brakes, and a rear only ain't gonna cut it unless you go slow. a front brake has like 2x the stopping power of a rear brake. and you can't skid with a freewheel..

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    I found a long thread on the motobecane and found out it comes fixed out the box, so I'll be running a front brake on it. I read through them all and it seems like the motobecane is a good entry level bike with a decent frame, but I didn't see how it stacked up against the windsor hour since they are both the same price now. Its a tough decision. I'm new to all of this, so I appreciate all the help. poe



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    Originally Posted by shortshorts
    It'll come shipped with the rear wheel and chain already installed on the fixed side.
    The freewheel side doesn't have a cog included.
    So, if you were gunning for a fixed gear, you're all set to go!
    If you only want a front brake, the rear brake they give you with the bike can be used as a front brake, you just need to get longer hardware to attach it to the front fork.
    your lbs should have that on the cheap.



    oh, i thought it came with everything needed to go freewheel.. the marketing copy is a bit misleading.

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    They seem pretty similar, you'd probably be equally content with either one. Lots of no-name parts on both. Which color are you looking at? Personally I'd go for the Moto for being stickerless, but the Windsor's been around longer and has a fair number of satisfied owners I think. Have you also shopped your LBSs? Are you planning to have them give it a once-over when you get it? Consider the costs of that plus a new cog plus problem solver's plus maybe a wheel truing or 2, maybe new saddle and pedals if the stock are too crappy for you, and whatever else; in addition to just supporting a B&M and getting their support back. But if you're cool with the internet thing that's cool too. just my $0.02.

    Quote Originally Posted by AYATOxKAMINA View Post
    How hard is the transition to fixed with 1 front brake from freewheel?
    It's easy. Just takes a week or 2 to fully get used to not being able to stop pedalling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by preston811 View Post
    Have you also shopped your LBSs?
    I have and they are a little out of my range right now, but I'm all about supporting mom and pop shops. I'm planning on getting all of the parts I upgrade from LBSs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by preston811 View Post
    BUT both these bikes come with rear brake only (dumb) but they can be made to work on the front with a problem solver's nut.
    The CPSC rules state that if a new bike only has one brake, it has to be a rear brake. So the rear brake is a compliance issue.

    By the way, my guess would be that the geometry is the biggest difference between the two.

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    You shouldn't have any issues w/ running fixed and a front brake. Get what you want they'll likely both be pretty similar.

    I'm enjoying the moto track i've had it for about 2 weeks now. I just changed the gear ratio to deal with hills better which has been very nice.


    in the end they're both just cheap bikes that are fun to ride around on. Remember that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clutchy View Post
    In the end they're both just cheap bikes that are fun to ride around on. Remember that.
    Thanks everyone, I went with the moto in black.

    I know that this is a cheap entry level bike, but is the bike good enough to upgrade along the way to make it a good bike or does it have to do with the frame?

    What bike does everyone recommend once someone has been riding for a while and has been through at least one bike?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AYATOxKAMINA View Post
    Thanks everyone, I went with the moto in black.

    I know that this is a cheap entry level bike, but is the bike good enough to upgrade along the way to make it a good bike or does it have to do with the frame?

    What bike does everyone recommend once someone has been riding for a while and has been through at least one bike?

    for me the idea was to get a relatively decent bike that i wouldn't cry myself to sleep if someone snips my cheap lock. I would herniate if someone swiped my roadbike which cost about 7 times what i paid for this thing... and that's an "inexpensive" road bike.

    I just take it to the store or wherever i feel like riding. When it comes down to it there really isn't all that much to upgrade. I guess you could upgrade the fork, but why? The cranks? What's the purpose? the bars? sure no big deal. The wheels? as far as i can tell they do just fine. The bike rides well and is reliable so i've been pretty hands off. Just changed a couple things for comfort and that's about it. I don't plan on doing much more with it besides riding it.

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    The first things I look at changing are the contact points. From there, maybe wheels. Most everyone can stand to have either a better set of wheels, or a cheaper "beater" set for bad weather.

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