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    Urban lady rider needs advice on purchase of new SS (Origin 8 vs Iro?)

    Some asshat stole my Specialized Langster Seattle from in front of my job on a Sunday afternoon, so it's time for a new SS. It was less than six months old so it's pretty heartbreaking to see it go. At the same time, I find that I'm ready for something a little more aggressive. The Seattle had kind of cruiser-y handlebars and I'm on the tall side, so I ride with the seat all the way back, and in my test rides I've liked shortish flatbars. I ride 5.5 miles from BK to Manhattan to commute, frequently in heels and with a bag on my back, so there is a middle ground of aggressiveness I need to strike. I'm not sure if I've found it yet.

    I've tried:
    Origin8 Uno, the '10, which is fender- and rack-friendly - loved it, smooth, but the bullhorns aren't my favorite. I need it to be sunny so I can try the 56 at Continuum - I've only ridden a smaller one at Manhattan Velo and think I need the 56.
    Iro Phoenix - I love that it's still reasonably priced fully customized on the Iro build-a-bike website. I'd get with it with flat bars and a black seatpost and the Iro clip pedals - any idea where to ride one? Continuum is a dealer but only has a Mark V frameset.
    Langster San Francisco - loved how it felt, but can't abide its ugliness
    Binachi Pista which was too small, fixed, no clips and I rode it in the rain on Irving :(
    Surly Steamroller - rode it fixed, with drops. it's off the list for exbf reasons. whoops!
    Trek Soho - just ugh. too sporty and upright.

    I've also sat on some real track bikes - one of Continuum's steel frames with drops - sexy! Light! Scary. Speaking of scary, I also rode some weird single speed in the $300 range at Manhattan Velo. Ouch.

    Any advice for anything I've missed in my hunt is greatly appreciated. I'm looking for dealz since I ride everywhere in all weather and need to lock it outside with a clear conscience when I'm toolin' around.

    Thanks in advance for any advice or bossiness! I have enjoyed reading other posts from you guys.

    Susan

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    ouch, thats NYC for you. But i have to say i missed the city so much.
    came back for thanksgiving break and it sure was nice to be in soho again.

    they're all nice bikes, get what fits and is comfortable. hard for anyone to tell you which bike is best for you

    i think you should get a better lock or LOCKS. cant hurt to tie it down.

    and also how do you ride in heels o.o

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    Of COURSE it was locked before and the new one will continue to be locked - thieves have grinders. We're not safe, yo. That said, two more Kryptonites it is, and I'm never locking it outside at work again - after my bike was stolen the garage across the street started offering bike parking for a buck a day, which is worth it for my piece of mind, especially when I'm working bonkers hours. (All garages are now required to offer bike parking FYI - http://www.nyc.gov/html/dcp/html/bic...ng/index.shtml)

    Pedal clips + heels = working different muscles! I call it cross-training. Heh.

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    Welcome to Bikeforums and my condolences on having your bike stolen. What kind of lock were you using and what time of day did this happen?

    In regards to choosing a bike, it seems like either one would be a decent choice. It all comes down to which one you really want and how much you're willing to drop. Btw you can always swap out the bullhorns on the uno. Personally, I ride a Bianchi Pista and love it. However, I feel like the geo might be too aggressive/uncomfortable for you.

    Props on riding in heels, but why not wear kicks when riding and change when you get to work? Also, do you ride around in BK?

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    I was using a Kryptonite U-lock with my two wheels and frame all locked together on a No Parking sign. Usually a 24h fruit guy is there that I've had an awkward chat with, but not on Sundays.....the lock was gone so it was likely sliced with a grinder.

    I'm going to upgrade to the Kryptonite NY x 2 this time, though hate hauling all that heavy ****.

    I am definitely going to buy the one I like, but I'm having trouble finding a shop that carries the Phoenix.

    Why NOT ride in heels? It's really not a big deal. I only change if I'm wearing scrubs or a pencil skirt at work. Scrubs are cold; pencil skirts prohibit full pedaling range of motion.

    My favorite riding outfit in the world is a sundress and flippie floppies. I'm on a bike!

    And yep, I ride in BK. I ride everywhere. I subway only if it's pouring or I'm carrying a pie.

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    If you have a bag why don't you just wear normal people shoes and throw the heels in the bag?
    The bums will always lose.

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    Heels ARE normal people shoes! I don't think sneakers are that comfortable. Flip flops, yes. Sneakers are constrictive! They are for the gym and sometimes for work. They are not for funtime bike riding.

    And my bag is full of lunch and books and clothes already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ADSR View Post
    If you have a bag why don't you just wear normal people shoes and throw the heels in the bag?
    +1. carrying an extra pair of shoes is worth the increase in comfort, speed and most importantly safety. It might not have happened yet, but what happens if you have to bail? you're going to hurt your ankles pretty badly in heels.

    but really, dress for the occasion; if you're riding a bike, wear shoes.

    also, why two u-locks? just to slow the thief down? if you're worried about your wheels, get a kryptoflex or carry a wrench.

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    remember, as mentioned the any of those bikes can cheaply and easily be modified to use whatever handlebars you wish. i personally have drop bars on my commuter, but i could see where riding relatively short distances on bullhorns or shorter flat bars would be desirable.

    most of the better shops should work with you on this and change out to whatever bars you are comfortable with. that said, most of the bikes you are looking at will ride almost identically with the proper stem and bar for you, good luck.

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    It might not have happened yet, but what happens if you have to bail? you're going to hurt your ankles pretty badly in heels.
    +1. Heels are sexy and all, but not practical. It doesn't make you any less of a woman if you ride around in sneakers or some kind of casual shoes (flats maybe). Also, if you don't wanna carry them in your bag, you can always get a rear rack or a basket.

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    Honestly, I find it easier to stop in heels - they make me taller, so there's a shorter distance between my my foot and the ground, same for the rare occasions that I have to skid. I feel similarly about riding in flip flops - one day I might lose a toenail but overall I'm safer being totally comfortable on my bike. My feet slip around on the pedals when I wear sneakers! I get that a lot of people are comfortable in 'real' shoes, but I'm not.

    Most of the time I'm in flats, I swear!

    One lock for frame and rear wheel, another for the front. I eyeball those kryptoflexes with skepticism. I had a bike seat chained down that was cut so anything flimsier just seems like a waste of time.

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    wow, im glad we dont have theft problems here. i use a cheap wal-mart lock and its more then enough...

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    someone is fishing

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    Your last bike probably got stolen because you locked it to a no parking sign, not because the lock was broken.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdgenbird View Post
    wow, im glad we dont have theft problems here. i use a cheap wal-mart lock and its more then enough...
    lolwut? where do you live?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sharpsandflatts View Post
    lolwut? where do you live?
    iowa.

    maybe people around here dont know what campy record and carbon fiber is

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    Quote Originally Posted by elTwitcho View Post
    Your last bike probably got stolen because you locked it to a no parking sign, not because the lock was broken.
    This is definitely more likely. It's a lot easier to remove the bolts on a street sign than to cut a lock. Especially if you have time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by teedoff087 View Post
    This is definitely more likely. It's a lot easier to remove the bolts on a street sign than to cut a lock. Especially if you have time.
    if the thief had a grinder it would also lop the head off a grade 2 bolt a lot faster than cutting through a good lock.

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    You may want to try a mama-chari. ... It's a SS after all.

    http://www.treehugger.com/mamachari-...race-japan.JPG

    I am nearly sure you are not gonna get that stolen if you U-lock that anywhere. ... Except your people at work will hate you.

    P.S. I would rather you do not ride at all with heels unless absolutely necessary. Essentially, pedals are as important as handle bars in keeping balance. You slip you fall. ... well that's fine with me, but I am not fine when you fall into my bike path.
    Last edited by Tomo_Ishi; 11-30-09 at 06:44 PM. Reason: Forgot about riding with heels.

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    I just realized the lady in the above picture has an aero-bar attached to her handle bar. lol

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    Get the bike that appeals to you best and fits the best> Handle bars can be swapped at the LBS for free or cheap.
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    Guys, if she can ride in hells, LEAVE HER ALONE!

    if she is riding a SS with nice platform pedals, she will be fine in heels, flats, crocs or even her bare feet if they are plastic. MFG!
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    Quote Originally Posted by DIRT BOY View Post
    Guys, if she can ride in hells, LEAVE HER ALONE!

    if she is riding a SS with nice platform pedals, she will be fine in heels, flats, crocs or even her bare feet if they are plastic. MFG!
    You do realize that she said this, right?:

    Honestly, I find it easier to stop in heels - they make me taller, so there's a shorter distance between my my foot and the ground, same for the rare occasions that I have to skid.

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    i leave 2 u-locks locked where i usually park my bike so i don't have to lug it around. Carry a mini u-lock in case i have to make a pit stop.

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    Since you say you have long legs and ride with the seat all the way back, you might want to avoid bikes with steep seat tube angles (not withstanding you wanting a more aggressive design). The Bianchi San Jose, the Raleigh One Way, and the Redline 925 are all commuter friendly single speeds with STA's around 72.5-73.

    See this thread here a couple of weeks back on women's bikes, especially Skmetz's post in there:

    http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...f-a-bike/page2

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