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Old 12-03-09, 09:23 PM   #1
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Vintage 1987 USSR Track Frame

Anybody know anything about these frames?

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Old 12-03-09, 09:27 PM   #2
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in soviet russia, track bike rides you!
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Old 12-03-09, 09:30 PM   #3
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in soviet russia, track bike rides you!
Down in one, good work.
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Old 12-03-09, 09:40 PM   #4
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Does this also imply that its a low-standard, sweatshop, communist mass-produced frame?
Columbus tubing legit?

Because I think it looks super clean and it definiety going to be the only one of its kind out there.
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Old 12-04-09, 02:34 AM   #5
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I'm sure the Columbus is legit. And the paint is super nice. I would want to know the geometry.
Somebody who is decent in Russian should run a search on them, they would get better results
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Old 12-04-09, 04:35 AM   #6
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You might check with the C&V forum. Those guys know everything.
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Old 12-04-09, 04:43 AM   #7
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The USSR has fantastic craftsmen. They made the most cost effective space travel system and the Mir space station.

It is probably a great frame!
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Well, if anything, it'd just be heavy. The Eastern Bloc made things to last, not fall apart so people would have to buy new ones like the decadent capitalist West
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The USSR has fantastic craftsmen. They made the most cost effective space travel system and the Mir space station.

It is probably a great frame!
And if it's Columbus tubing, rather than their own titanium, it's less likely to give off radiation.
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Yeah right, any isotope that is ratioactive is not going to be suitable as a track frame because the high neutron ratio will make the material too heavy. unless you can wait a few thousand years for if to loose mass.

unless you guys were being sarcastic...............
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This guy sells a bunch of old russian track frames. A lot of them are junk, but I noticed this one when cruising ebay yesterday. Seems kind of cool.
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Yeah right, any isotope that is ratioactive is not going to be suitable as a track frame because the high neutron ratio will make the material too heavy. unless you can wait a few thousand years for if to loose mass.

unless you guys were being sarcastic...............
I was more concerned about having a radioactive mass between my legs. I recall reading about stolen radioactive platinum that was bought by dentists...
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also consider the fact that this frame could have been made for olympic competitition. If that is the case, then the frame is most likely of high quality b/c the soviets were very competitive when it came to that stuff.
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its probably a good frame but the fork is going to probably be threaded russian standard as opossed to iso or jis. so finding a headset will be dificult. though maybe you could have it rethreaded to iso at a good shop. anyone know if the bottom brackets are threaded russsian(if there is such a thing) or iso or what?
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its probably a good frame but the fork is going to probably be threaded russian standard as opossed to iso or jis. so finding a headset will be dificult. though maybe you could have it rethreaded to iso at a good shop. anyone know if the bottom brackets are threaded russsian(if there is such a thing) or iso or what?
Yea dude, absolutely right. The fork is a M26x1, so yea, good luck finding a headset. I'm sure someone could make something work, but even still, most headset crown races are measured ISO 26.4 or JIS 27.0. The bb is Italian threaded.

EDIT: Anyone notice that that headset uses a lockring instead of a locknut?

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A USSR Olympic track frame ..... That's a hang from the ceiling bike, DO NOT re-thread anything!!!
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A USSR Olympic track frame ..... That's a hang from the ceiling bike, DO NOT re-thread anything!!!
No bike, unless it has some personal meaning to you and is damaged beyond riding should be hung up. Ride the thing
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No bike, unless it has some personal meaning to you and is damaged beyond riding should be hung up. Ride the thing
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"Anyone notice that that headset uses a lockring instead of a locknut? "

I had an older Bianchi that came with one of those spacers that was a lockring. went to the bike shop and got a regular steel spacer of the same length and it worked just fine. I have no idea why you would need a lock ring but, the guy at bike shop that I hang out at said it wasn't important and I never had any problems when I switched.<--- I'll probably get jumped on about that but whatever.
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It lacks communist regalia.....

That's one neat specimen; columbus tubi too
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Columbus made a lot of tubing that wasn't very good. Generally, unless the Columbus sticker specifies which tubing was used, it's cheap tubing. Considering the low quality stamped lugs, the sloppy brazing, and the lumpy paint, it's almost certain to be low-end tubing as well.

The Soviet cycling teams, BTW, were famous for scrounging and trading during the 70s and 80s. Mostly they rode rusty old Colnagos with Campy Super Record parts. They traded god-awful quality Soviet bike parts, T-shirts and warm-up suits, and various other Eastern-Bloc trinkets for spares. I still have most of a red wool tracksuit (it started falling apart a few months after I got it) that I got from Alexander Kirichenko for a used Nuovo Record track hubset in '87 or '88. I never saw any Soviet cyclist using a Soviet-made bike part until they came out with the uber-cool tension disk wheels in 1990 or so. I certainly never saw any frames marked "Kbaht" or "Kvant".
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In capitolist America, bike buys you!

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Meh, it is the nicest looking Russian frame I have ever seen but that isn't saying much, most of the other ones that found their way onto ebay looked like boat anchors. I am not sure why anyone would equate a country's ability to launch something into space with the quality of their bicycles but to me, the welds here are pretty crappy looking....

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Not all Russian-made goods are poor quality, utlilitarian junk. I wouldn't trade my genuine McStalin for anything.
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When was the last time you saw "Red Dawn"?

Mr. Gorbachev, put back that wall.
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...but to me, the welds here are pretty crappy looking....
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