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    VeloNews readers chime in on "fixies" and "hipster types"

    Can anyone give me a ride from Monterey to Big Bear on Wednesday or Thursday?

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    Pick a side so the debate can start.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian View Post
    Pick a side so the debate can start.
    Just bringing it to attention in case everybody doesn't read VeloNews.
    Can anyone give me a ride from Monterey to Big Bear on Wednesday or Thursday?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tradtimbo View Post
    Just bringing it to attention in case everybody doesn't read VeloNews.
    Hey, are you the guy that fixed the dented top tube of the Austro?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian View Post
    Pick a side so the debate can start.
    I pick the side with brakes for the same reason that all cars should have working brakes, for the safety of everyone on the road. If you want to ride without brakes, do so on a track.
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    Quote Originally Posted by j3ffr3y View Post
    I pick the side with brakes for the same reason that all cars should have working brakes, for the safety of everyone on the road. If you want to ride without brakes, do so on a track.
    In which case we should ban bikes with coaster brakes with no front as they pretty much stop as if they had none.
    Mes compaingnons cui j'amoie et cui j'aim,... Me di, chanson.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian View Post
    Hey, are you the guy that fixed the dented top tube of the Austro?
    Nope. Resemblance?
    Can anyone give me a ride from Monterey to Big Bear on Wednesday or Thursday?

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    Quote Originally Posted by operator View Post
    In which case we should ban bikes with coaster brakes with no front as they pretty much stop as if they had none.
    well, they don't stop very well, but they don't go very fast either. When was the last time you saw someone on a beach cruiser hit 10 mph?

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    uuuhhhg another brakes debate.... for the record.... I like turtles...

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    brakes stop a car, my legs stop my bike. Both things go fast and stop when you want them to. Problem???

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    I vote for bikes!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by stryper View Post
    brakes stop a car, my legs stop my bike. Both things go fast and stop when you want them to. Problem???
    The issue is not stopping when you want to stop, but stopping when the person you run into wanted you to.

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    I think all this crap is due to very few people among us who confuse being "cool" and just being a blatant violator of traffic safety in a busy city with a lot people. (Notice I don't say "traffic law")

    I saw a brake-less messenger last week going up a busy congested hilly traffic right on the center line and suddenly made across the incoming (down-going) traffic. An incoming taxi driver slammed brake and saved that day. The fool went off as if nothing happened. +1000 for the taxi driver. I mean not even a honk.

    But then, I see plenty of crazy "braked" people on cycling jerseys completely oblivious to their surroundings and traffic condition. Totally ignore signals without looking around for traffic. I think they think people would avoid em because of flashy jerseys or something. And, most importantly they get unnecessarily and dangerously competitive. Crazy, some them even form a start line at the cross-section and sprint at the traffic light ... all in heavy traffic area.

    I think it ain't about brake-less, it's about being mature and maintaining safety of yourself and other people. If you can do that, I am completely fine whether if you have brake or not. Don't be reckless either way though. You can't win against the will of the heavy metal or hard pavements. (Oh ... and don't crash into me)

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    I forget my front brake is there most of the time.

    No barspin complaints! I found this! But I don't know what it is!
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    Quote Originally Posted by WoundedKnee View Post
    I forget my front brake is there most of the time.

    No barspin complaints! I found this! But I don't know what it is!
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/davidctsai/3720587592/
    Shearatons are so awesome. Gotta love those semi-hollows.
    The bums will always lose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ADSR View Post
    Shearatons are so awesome. Gotta love those semi-hollows.
    What is this you speak of?

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    Quote Originally Posted by operator View Post
    In which case we should ban bikes with coaster brakes with no front as they pretty much stop as if they had none.
    You're right in principle, but the majority of bikes sold with coaster brakes have riders who are incapable of going very quickly in the first place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomo_Ishi View Post
    I saw a brake-less messenger last week going up a busy congested hilly traffic right on the center line and suddenly made across the incoming (down-going) traffic. An incoming taxi driver slammed brake and saved that day. The fool went off as if nothing happened. +1000 for the taxi driver. I mean not even a honk.
    And it likely would have ended quite differently if the taxi had ineffective brakes as well. Should motor vehicles be the only road users required to have effective brakes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fuzz2050 View Post
    well, they don't stop very well, but they don't go very fast either. When was the last time you saw someone on a beach cruiser hit 10 mph?
    Not common but I've seen people on beach cruisers and coaster brakes break 10mph on downhills easily. And I'm positive they can't stop in 15ft at 15mph. But besides, police will probably not go after people on beach cruisers regardless of how many laws they break. I'm not going to fuel the endless brakes vs. brakeless debate but I do find it surprising that only one reply to the original velonews letter addresses the bike registration issue. I think this is much more important topic to be discussing...

    http://prollyisnotprobably.com/2009/...ts_get_scr.php
    http://urbanvelo.org/philadelphia-co...-registration/

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    Quote Originally Posted by ADSR View Post
    Shearatons are so awesome. Gotta love those semi-hollows.
    Are they running the star nut with the hole for a brake cable? I've got some of those, if anyone is interested.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WoundedKnee View Post
    What is this you speak of?
    The guitar pictured in that photo album. It's beautiful.
    The bums will always lose.

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    These threads get humorous once you stop being annoyed by them.
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    Asking roadies about fixies is like asking lesbians about guys. LOL!

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    I would start a riot before I put a license plate on my bike. simple as that. not because I am all for breaking the law or i'm just a rebel, but that law specifically would just be too stupid and ugly to obey it.

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