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    Cargo Handlebars?

    There is a discussion of these bars over in the Utility forum but since the demo bike is a brakeless fixed gear I thought some folks here might be interested too.

    http://www.designboom.com/weblog/cat...handlebar.html




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    Looks like the milk bottle holder out of an old refrigerator.

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    i don't have much experience with front loads but.. how much weight would these be able to carry as compared to front racks?
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    Love it.

    If it were my bike, I'd add a front brake... and some kind of support(s) for the basket. I wouldn't trust stem pinch bolts or face plate bolts to keep the basket from rotating down, with a load and something like hitting a pothole or dropping off a curb. And if it does, what hits first--front of the basket on the tire (bad), or rear horizontal bottom tube hitting (denting?) the headtube (worse)?

    Fantastic design, though.
    I know next to nothing. I am frequently wrong.

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    I think it would be a better design if they had mounting legs to attach it to the front wheel at the fork tabs. If you had enough weight in it or hit a big enough bump it would pull the load down as well as the handlebars.

    This one just looks silly to me.

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    They look more pretty than utility.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ichitz View Post
    i don't have much experience with front loads but.. how much weight would these be able to carry as compared to front racks?
    Not much and with the weight forward of the front axle the steering will get wonky pretty quick. (hard to keep weight behind the front axle with such a steep head tube though)

    Quote Originally Posted by mconlonx View Post
    If it were my bike, I'd add a front brake... and some kind of support(s) for the basket. I wouldn't trust stem pinch bolts or face plate bolts to keep the basket from rotating down.
    These were my first two thoughts when i saw it. With support braces going down to he axle or at least some P-clamps on the fork legs it would be sturdier. I doubt stem faces were designed for this kind of torsional loading.

    Quote Originally Posted by Brian View Post
    They look more pretty than utility.
    Isn't that the quintessence of a street-ridden brakeless fixed gear bicycle though?

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    A one piece bar/stem combo would make more sense, as that would eliminate the faceplate loads.

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    Adding some supports seems simple enough. P-clamps FTW.


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    Quote Originally Posted by HandsomeRyan View Post
    There is a discussion of these bars over in the Utility forum but since the demo bike is a brakeless fixed gear I thought some folks here might be interested too.
    I think the responses in that thread have it covered. High COG plus direct attachment to your bars is going to produce pretty crappy handling. Struts from the rack to the front dropouts would also stiffen the fork, reducing flex. The French porteur bikes represent a better model for carrying front loads. I'd love to see how much wheel flop is involved with this thing once loaded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian View Post
    A one piece bar/stem combo would make more sense, as that would eliminate the faceplate loads.
    I couldn't agree more. Although, considering how people ride in track drops and bullhorns, I can see it not needing it. Of course, that doesn't mean someone can sit in it without the supports

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    Quote Originally Posted by leed View Post
    I couldn't agree more. Although, considering how people ride in track drops and bullhorns, I can see it not needing it. Of course, that doesn't mean someone can sit in it without the supports
    Anyone riding on the street with track drops is not interested in utility.

    Ryan, get to work on a new design, please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian View Post
    Ryan, get to work on a new design, please.
    I was actually at Home Depot earlier today looking for some P-clamps to design something similar (but with fork-mounted support arms). I couldn't find anything that would work at the store I was at. I'll keep fighting the good fight and you know I'll post up if/when I make something.

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    C'mon, meow. If you thighten the stem engough, you dont need supports... esp. if all you put in there is your bf standard, a case of pbr .

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    Quote Originally Posted by martinus View Post
    C'mon, meow. If you thighten the stem engough, you dont need supports... esp. if all you put in there is your bf standard, a case of pbr .
    I don't like the idea of a big lever, even on my Thomson.

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    i'm not sure if that thing will hold a pbr. Esp. on bumpy roads..
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    I'd throw a set of those on my grocery bike in a hot minute.
    Ride lots, have fun, skid often!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian View Post
    Anyone riding on the street with track drops is not interested in utility.

    Ryan, get to work on a new design, please.
    You are correct, however I was actually referring to the amount of torque a rider can apply.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ichitz View Post
    i'm not sure if that thing will hold a pbr. Esp. on bumpy roads..

    you're thinking of the electra one ...

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    yeah where can I get these?

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    I dont understand other peoples bikes.

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    why would you put those on a nagasawa? cool idea if it where actually able to carry anything though.
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