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Singlespeed & Fixed Gear "I still feel that variable gears are only for people over forty-five. Isn't it better to triumph by the strength of your muscles than by the artifice of a derailer? We are getting soft...As for me, give me a fixed gear!"-- Henri Desgrange (31 January 1865 - 16 August 1940)

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Old 02-05-10, 09:10 PM   #1
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Skid Stop

I've got my fixie for couple weeks lately. and like when i try to skid i cant seem to lock up my legs so it can skid my gear ratio is 48x16 any help
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Old 02-05-10, 09:44 PM   #2
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you're ratio's kinda high for a beginner i suppose but not so much that you shouldnt be able to lock it up unless your tiny. are you putting all your weight over the front wheel, balls to stem?
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whats a good ratio for a beginner? and yes my balls are to the stem but when i push it back my legs still pedal like it slows down but doesnt skid.
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play around with this: http://sheldonbrown.com/gears/
and try to find something as close to 70 gear inches as you can get IMO
if you're riding brakeless, than its best if you have a gear ratio that cant be simplified (i.e. 46/17) so you have enough skid patches to not wear your tire out too quick.
as long as you get the weight up front and lock up your rear leg, which should be your strong leg, than you should get it. it takes a little bit of practice. and a little speed makes it easier as well
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Old 02-05-10, 10:16 PM   #5
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play around with this: http://sheldonbrown.com/gears/
and try to find something as close to 70 gear inches as you can get IMO
if you're riding brakeless, than its best if you have a gear ratio that cant be simplified (i.e. 46/17) so you have enough skid patches to not wear your tire out too quick.
as long as you get the weight up front and lock up your rear leg, which should be your strong leg, than you should get it. it takes a little bit of practice. and a little speed makes it easier as well
how do i work this i dont really get most of what it wants for me to ask. but can you recommend a good ratio for a noob for fixies
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46 up front, 17 in back. you get 17 skid patches and 71 gear inches. great place to start.
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Old 02-05-10, 10:21 PM   #7
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46 up front, 17 in back. you get 17 skid patches and 71 gear inches. great place to start.
alright look my crank is 48t whats a good cog t for it? to make it beginner friendly
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if you're sticking with your 48t chain ring, put an 18t cog in back and have fun eating up your tire. thats 70 gear inches by the way. or put a 19t cog on for more skid patches and even lower gear inches (66) but if you keep riding fixed you'll grow out of a gearing that low pretty fast.
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if you're sticking with your 48t chain ring, put an 18t cog in back and have fun eating up your tire. thats 70 gear inches by the way. or put a 19t cog on for more skid patches and even lower gear inches (66) but if you keep riding fixed you'll grow out of a gearing that low pretty fast.
not to sound stupid is it bad to get more skid patches? since i already have a 16 cog and 48 t crank its either cause i want a easy ratio to skid in
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more skid patches is good. less is bad. if you have less it basically means that every time you skid you're going to be skidding on the same part of your tire and you're going to wear through it faster.
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I don't get it, can't you just remove the tire and turn it a bit and remount it every so often depending on how much you ride?
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more skid patches is good. less is bad. if you have less it basically means that every time you skid you're going to be skidding on the same part of your tire and you're going to wear through it faster.
in your opininon waht would be better? 48/18 or 46/17
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That isn't the only reason.. it makes skidding much more difficult when there are less patches.

W: just do 46/17
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yeah but thats a pain in the ass when you could just buy a new cog for 10 bucks.
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in your opininon waht would be better? 48/18 or 46/17
46/17. thats why it was my first suggestion.
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What's the most common gearing fixies use? also track riders?
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who knows. i just know what i like from experimenting with different combinations. it depends on where you ride, how you ride, etc.

EDIT: but i have no idea if theres a common gearing among track racers. i dont ride track.

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What's the most common gearing fixies use? also track riders?
I've been told track riders have 50+ teeth for chainring and about 13,14-tooth cog?
Either way, its insane gearing!
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46/17. thats why it was my first suggestion.
This is the gearing I'm using currently, and it's a good all around gear, and skidding with it is not that difficult.
wedoboop, if you're willing to, you should try out that gearing.
Also remember to lean over the handlebars a bit.
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I've been told track riders have 50+ teeth for chainring and about 13,14-tooth cog?
Either way, its insane gearing!
haha, id like to see someone pushing that in sf. although i suppose it would be quite a fun downhill gearing.
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Over handlebar skids are pretty useless once you learn the professional way.. ha professional.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDThbgvMQZI

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Yeah ... seated skids. I am still working on that, I still have to lift my bottoms alittle.
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I don't get it, can't you just remove the tire and turn it a bit and remount it every so often depending on how much you ride?
You are crazy. Just "move" (rotate) the entire wheel. Much easier than REMOVING THE TIRE.

Odds are you would have done this anyway when you removed the tire.... unless you reset the hub in the exact same rotation you found it.
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yeah i find it hard for me to push back and skid with my ratio of 48/16

whats a good cheap chainring with 47 t ? but good chainring

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I can do seated skids but it's dangerous on the roads in my neighborhood, my tires stick to the pavement like glue.
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