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Old 02-08-10, 07:14 PM   #1
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recommend me a new crankset!

i've been commuting on my windsor clockwork SS for over a year now, and to date i have replaced every single part on the frame except for the crankset. everything.

i'm looking for something in the $100 range that's 46t and tough.

also, does anyone know the bb length that would be required. reason for the upgrade is the bb is getting rough from all the foul weather riding and i'd like to do the bb and crankset at the same time.

whats good out there for relatively cheap???
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If you planned on upgrading everything, why didn't you just save up so you can upgrade your frame?

and I'm not sure you'll find anything within $100 that will be much better than your stock crankset.
There's the budget pake, eightinch, andel, sugino rd, sram courier...
To me, all those "upgrades" are minimal to none.
I would save up for the crankset with the most bang for your buck: SRAM Omniums for under $200.
http://www.velomine.com/index.php?ma...bif932l25llst0
I can't say that I've experienced them first hand but they get very good reviews and are supposedly very close to the quality of sugino 75s.
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Old 02-08-10, 07:26 PM   #3
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whats the deal with the scram courier? looks pretty decent.
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The SRAM S300?

http://www.benscycle.net/index.php?m...oducts_id=7500

I'm also interested in reading what people have to say.
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The Pake track crank is perfectly fine. For $50 or so, it's a good deal.

If you're racing, you may want a 144bcd crank, but otherwise, the extra $ isn't getting you much.
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The SRAM S300?

http://www.benscycle.net/index.php?m...oducts_id=7500

I'm also interested in reading what people have to say.
i have those cranks on my conversion. i like them a lot. they feel very stiff and the price is right for a crankset with external bottom bracket included (i paid around 100 for mine). i've ridden almost daily for 6 months through rain, snow, etc. and they've never given me any rouble. the only thing that sucks about them is that you can only run the chainring on the inside of the spider which looks a little janky but whatever, you're riding a clockwork.
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i have those cranks on my conversion. i like them a lot. they feel very stiff and the price is right for a crankset with external bottom bracket included (i paid around 100 for mine). i've ridden almost daily for 6 months through rain, snow, etc. and they've never given me any rouble. the only thing that sucks about them is that you can only run the chainring on the inside of the spider which looks a little janky but whatever, you're riding a clockwork.
yes this bike definitely falls into the "tool not a jewel" category
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i have those cranks on my conversion. i like them a lot. they feel very stiff and the price is right for a crankset with external bottom bracket included (i paid around 100 for mine). i've ridden almost daily for 6 months through rain, snow, etc. and they've never given me any rouble. the only thing that sucks about them is that you can only run the chainring on the inside of the spider which looks a little janky but whatever, you're riding a clockwork.
If im not mistaken, dont these come with a bash ring that fills the void left by running the chainring on the inside?
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I would save up for the crankset with the most bang for your buck: SRAM Omniums for under $200.
http://www.velomine.com/index.php?ma...bif932l25llst0
I can't say that I've experienced them first hand but they get very good reviews and are supposedly very close to the quality of sugino 75s.
I don't think so.
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omnomnoms cost 165 on bikeisland
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I don't think so.
Agreed, the BB went to **** on mine very quickly. Thats why I sold them.
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i have those cranks on my conversion. i like them a lot. they feel very stiff and the price is right for a crankset with external bottom bracket included (i paid around 100 for mine). i've ridden almost daily for 6 months through rain, snow, etc. and they've never given me any rouble. the only thing that sucks about them is that you can only run the chainring on the inside of the spider which looks a little janky but whatever, you're riding a clockwork.
IMO it looks fine with the chainring on the inside. How's your chainline, though?
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i haven't measured it or anything but using them with a formula hub + DA cog gave me a straight chainline.
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I don't think so.
Worded wrong. I meant stiffness.
I heard they were almost as stiff as sugino 75s.
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scratch the original plan, sticking with my original crank, just going to change out the worn chainring. need: 46t, 130 bcd
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uhh.. for the record... Omniums are just as good if not better than the 75's. Sorry but, square taper technology is outdated (although nice pieces, regardless) and I hope no one tries and tells me that NJS means the best.
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Sorry but, square taper technology is outdated
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uhh.. for the record... Omniums are just as good if not better than the 75's. Sorry but, square taper technology is outdated (although nice pieces, regardless) and I hope no one tries and tells me that NJS means the best.
omniums aren't NJS stamped, inferior quality. inferior design

steel is a circle brah
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I heard they were almost as stiff as sugino 75s.
Are you serious? OP is talking about COMMUTING. Your BB/chainstay will flex long before your crank.
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Are you serious? OP is talking about COMMUTING. Your BB/chainstay will flex long before your crank.
Heresy! This hasn't stopped the proliferation of 75's and other overmatched components for street riding. My favorites by far are noodly conversions (which I love, btw) with track cranksets (and, of course, track drops -- for, er, comfort?). There's far more talk about stiff cranks than about where bikes actually flex.

So yeah, to the op, good call just getting a new chainring. Save the cash for tires.
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omniums aren't NJS stamped, inferior quality. inferior design

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I hope you realize that NJS stamped isn't a sign of superior quality, but moreso a marker for keirin standards?

How the hell is the design "inferior"? And as for quality, track racers use omniums as much 75's, aside from DA.

Once again, square taper is outdated. Still a great product, but omniums shouldn't be discounted.
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I hope you realize that NJS stamped isn't a sign of superior quality, but moreso a marker for keirin standards?

How the hell is the design "inferior"? And as for quality, track racers use omniums as much 75's, aside from DA.

Once again, square taper is outdated. Still a great product, but omniums shouldn't be discounted.
i hope you realize that keirin racers are the toughest in the world. also, i know a guy who messed in nyc, and he ****ed up all his bike parts but his njs super mighty cranks.

a keirin racer needs all njs parts because anything that isn't njs stamped will break and cause a big crash. NJS stuff is made by tiny japanese men that are like 90 years old and have made bike stuff since the 20's. the best quality, like samurai swords.

the srams are omnium stamped, just like the giant omnium frame. that bike has compact geo and is aluminum so it's bad


plus why mess with square taper IF IT AIN'T FIXED DON'T BREAK IT.





IF IT'S FIXED, DON'T BRAKE IT LOLAMIRITE?
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i hope you realize that keirin racers are the toughest in the world. also, i know a guy who messed in nyc, and he ****ed up all his bike parts but his njs super mighty cranks.

a keirin racer needs all njs parts because anything that isn't njs stamped will break and cause a big crash. NJS stuff is made by tiny japanese men that are like 90 years old and have made bike stuff since the 20's. the best quality, like samurai swords.

the srams are omnium stamped, just like the giant omnium frame. that bike has compact geo and is aluminum so it's bad


plus why mess with square taper IF IT AIN'T FIXED DON'T BREAK IT.





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If im not mistaken, dont these come with a bash ring that fills the void left by running the chainring on the inside?
Commuting has given me a newfound appreciation for bash guards. Rolling up your pants leg when it's really cold sucks, and I look like a ****** if I forget to roll it back down when I run into the beer store or whatever. Do they make nice looking bash guards? The nicest looking one I'm aware of it the one I made for my sister's bike by snapping all the teeth off the outer chainring on a Shimano crankset with channel locks, then smoothed down with a grinder.
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