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Old 02-09-10, 07:23 PM   #1
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kilo tt geo question

is it just me, or are some kilo tt frame's geo different from others. the frames are the same size, so thats not it. just take a look.


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the first one looks tighter to me. but then i look at it again and see no difference. i need other peoples opinions
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Old 02-09-10, 07:51 PM   #2
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Different forks?
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First picture is tilted, second picture is flat. Seems like the same geo to me.
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Old 02-09-10, 10:30 PM   #4
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im thinking different forks too
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Old 02-11-10, 12:20 AM   #5
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No. They are all different. Even of the same frame size. Me and a buddy both have 57's and his looks like a funky-awesome track bike and mine looks like a chopper.
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Hopefully Mr. Bikesdirect can pop in and give us the full answer.
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Depends on if you got your bike from Bikesdirect or Bikeisland,my 55 fits like a57.
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great. so its random...
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great. so its random...
Talk to this guy,he's honest and fair(and he sells frames and complete builds)

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Come on now... They are all the damn same geo!
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lol.. different forks, maybe different sized tires (and on different wheelsets, which makes them visually different), and rear tire clearance is affected gear ratio (due to chain length and where they mount on the dropouts).
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Probably different amounts of fork rake, but I doubt the geometry of the frames are different. Its cheaper to make the exact same cookie cutter frame over and over again. Why would they vary the geometry?

However, I have long doubted the posted geometry charts for several of the BD fixed gear offerings. Some of them just seem too weird to be true or they appear to be off compared to the bikes themselves.
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The bike in the second picture has the front wheel turned...Straighten the bars and the geo will look the same
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There are definitely different amounts of fork rake. I've compared mine side by side with a few others and it's pretty noticeable.
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The bike in the second picture has the front wheel turned...Straighten the bars and the geo will look the same
this. you can see it in the handle bars too.
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The front triangle looks wider in the bottom picture, but maybe it's just me.
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Old 02-14-10, 10:31 PM   #17
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the bottom picture was also shot with a wide angle lens. there is a bit of distortion evident, the bike is probably slightly bowed from it.
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Why not just ask mike? Too easy?
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