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Old 02-12-10, 09:26 AM   #1
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would this be a good frame for a SS?

i'm looking to buy complete or build a SS. is there anything about it that jumps out negatively?

http://cgi.ebay.com/Raleigh-Super-Co...item439d419906
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Old 02-12-10, 09:35 AM   #2
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as long as you don't mind spending at least 300 or 400 dollars on bb, wheels, stem, handlebar, seat, seatpost, etc... it is a pretty frame though.

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Old 02-12-10, 09:40 AM   #3
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as long as you don't mind spending about 300 or 400 dollars on bb, wheels, stem, handlebar, seat, seatpost, etc... it is a pretty frame though.
yep, i know. i am trying to get rid of my alu hybrid in favor of a lugged steel road/SS bike to keep at my office.
ideally, i like the cinelli supercorsa look, but that's obviously out of my league. chrome lugs, classic design is what i'm going for.

i saw this too - Traitor cycles - it's not quite as "traditional" but it is complete and new and will require a lot less work.


also in the running is the specialized allez steel. but that's not a SS.
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The super course is a much much prettier bike. I'd want to see some full frame shots before I hit the bid button; the photo of the head tube and fork has some distortion which I think is in the photo. But I'd rather be sure before bidding.

Keep in mind ghoul's estimate assumes you are buying all those parts new. You can do it a good deal cheaper. I built a PX frame into a fixed gear for under 150$ total, with handbuilt wheels (by me). It depends how comfortable you are with your own mechanical abilities, and how good you are at scrounging/finding parts.
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Problem with Traitor, right now, is pretty much all of their frames are out of stock. I think if the frame is in good condition (no huge dents, no bent fork/steerer/etc) then the frame will suit the purpose fine. But those pictures... Yeah..
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Too bad the seller didn't give you better photos to base your decision on. I'm with poguemahone. I'd like to see some better pictures especially with the seller's track record.
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ya, i see what you're saying. while i am pretty confident that i could build the bike on my own (they're just screws and chains, after all), i'm inclined not to spend the money on tools and time.

I might just concentrate more on selling my Jamis and use the money for a steelie.
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Thanks for pointing out traitor. Interesting bikes. Like the looks of that Rubens commuter...
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Poor pictures and a bad feedback record would be a deal breaker for me. It's a shame because otherwise that would be a nice frame.
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Poor pictures and a bad feedback record would be a deal breaker for me. It's a shame because otherwise that would be a nice frame.
The record is bad only because seller has only 7 sales in one year and just 1 negative results in a bad percentage. Also, that 1 negative rating is total BS from a stupid buyer with a feedback rating of only 3. It was totally unjustified. I always read the actually feedback to separate the valid complaints from the crap that some idiot buyer's leave.
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Yeah, just screws and chains and stuff... Ever repacked a loose ball BB or Headset? Do you have a torque wrench?
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Yeah, just screws and chains and stuff... Ever repacked a loose ball BB or Headset? Do you have a torque wrench?
Yes, you'll need tools. No, SS bikes are not difficult to work on, even with very limited mechanical experience, if you're willing to put in the effort.
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The record is bad only because seller has only 7 sales in one year and just 1 negative results in a bad percentage. Also, that 1 negative rating is total BS from a stupid buyer with a feedback rating of only 3. It was totally unjustified. I always read the actually feedback to separate the valid complaints from the crap that some idiot buyer's leave.
Maybe "bad" is a bit of an extreme word, and that 1 negative is BS. But when flipping through the pages of his feedback the seller also has multiple neutrals and another negative, which when taking into account a short description and mediocre photos raises a red flag to me.
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also in the running is the specialized allez steel. but that's not a SS.
What about the steel Langster?

http://www.specialized.com/us/en/bc/...45784&eid=4354

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i wouldnt go with that raleigh track off ebay. from what i can see, its not drilled for brakes. and brakes are a pretty crucial part of a ss
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Yes, buy it!

It has character, heritage and soul that you'll not get with a modern frame. I'm riding an old Bob Jackson SS conversion and have had more compliments than my friend on his new Serotta. Love the lugs.

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Old 02-12-10, 06:21 PM   #17
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I'll have to agree with 'skid on me' when it comes to buying from eBay. I would look locally through Craigslist. Being able to look at a bike from sketchy, or even good photos, vs being able to look at a bike first hand, are two completely different things. Depending on your location, you should be able to find a decent older frame easier, and possibly cheaper. Also, if you have a co-op, definitely try that out.
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Of course, you must have not read the whole title. " Raleigh Super Course lugged steel track fixie fixed"

These titles get really annoying after a while. I see why it is done, but still...
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